| Author | Message | ||
     Tgroghan |
Looking for ideas to mount some hard luggage bags to my XB, not looking for stuff that came on the S3t. Heard of this guy mounting Ducati Multistrada bags to his 9s, looks great. ANy other ideas!? Pictures take at this years Homecoming in WI.<br>  <BR> <BR>  <BR>  <BR>  (Message edited by tgroghan on August 19, 2004) | ||
| Darthane |
Fab something that uses the passenger peg mounts. That's what I use to secure the soft bags I have. | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
Not bad, except for the way it looks with the bags off. Tons better than the Givi scaffolding. Beemer bags use something in the front to stop the bags from moving away from the bike. That would clean up the rear of the bike considerably. | ||
| Fdl3 |
I knew I had seen that XB12S before: XB12S Sport Tourer | ||
| Captainplanet |
Here is a pic I found a while ago. Don't know anything about it though.  | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
With as small as they are, I wonder how much heavily laden bags squirrel up the handling. | ||
| Stonecoldbuellin |
damn people GET A BACK PACK!!! Them hard bags are FUGLY. Your KILLING one of the sexiest profiled bike out there!!!! (Message edited by stonecoldbuellin on August 19, 2004) | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
I bet those bags are large enough for a spare belt.  | ||
| Darthane |
Ventura makes great systems for the Buells...not saddlebags, but something to think about. | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
Here's what I'm working on....this is a pic of a prelim mount, waiting to get parts back from a machine shop for final mounting. The main mounts are on the passenger pegs, with a small support off the rear of the frame.  Yeah call it ugly or whatever you want, but if I can't carry a lot of stuff on the bike then I won't use it as much as I want. There's only so much you can carry in a backpack! A few bolts and it's off for a fully stock look. | ||
| BadS1 |
Those bags that are on that twelve are from a Ducati Multistrada and he had just alittle fabrication to make them work but there big dollars.....like $1100.00.Those photos were taken at Uke's HD BUELL.We had a battletrax going on as well BUELLS coming home event. | ||
| Deerhunter17 |
.....  ... Fugly....yeah,.... Fuuuuuggggglllly | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
The bags I bought were $240 for the pair, the brackets were $100 and everything else I fabricated from materials I procured for free. | ||
| Geoffg |
Hey Cold, when you got that system up and running could you post a pic? I ain't got my XBR yet, but I'm working on it--and I'm gonna want some way to put "quick-release" bags on it! | ||
| Easy_rider |
Stonecold: I'll agree with fugly, but I'm not going to buy half a dozen backpacks so I can have a few at work and a few at home and always have one handy at a moments notice. Showin' up to work with a sweaty back isn't too appealing, either. Buell's got a sweet bike for the pure enjoyment of riding. Now if they can just address the practical side before I'm ready to upgrade from my }S3T. (Message edited by easy_rider on August 24, 2004) | ||
| Tbs_stunta |
Cold, I dig about the bags. Please post a photo of what the bike looks like sans bags as well. I want bags, but I don't want scaffolding. It would be cool if you could raise the bags so you could strap a tent across the seat and the top of the bags. (Message edited by TBS_Stunta on August 23, 2004) | ||
| Davefla |
Cold, IIRC, your previous posts mention that this mount was preliminary- didn't you plan to move the bags higher for more clearance? I'm interested in your results, especially your riding impressions while having bags as large as the E35s on the bike. I have a E140 WingRack and a pair of E21s that are going on my XB12R as soon as I get some other things crossed off the to-do list. The E21s seemed like the best fit by size, but together they (obviously) won't hold much more than a single E35, and probably less, given the small openings. OTOH, they only cost $75 each, and I already had an E35 set up as a top case that I can use for trips... Fugly, but nice & convenient. | ||
| Dj_rider |
how does one get in contact with the guy who owns this cruiser xb???????????? i want to ask him how he made those crusier pegs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
I'm hoping to get the stuff back from the shop this week, all I have are old pics so I'll post a few. If I don't get them by Wednesday, I'll be out of town till next Tuesday so here's a little something for you to work with. I like the term scaffolding, that's pretty much what this is going to be! They discontinued this product, I assume partly because they don't say Harley on them and hog riders don't want plastic euro-bags on their chrome laden beasts. Otherwise it was their lame attempt to make some sort of wing design. I got them at a local shop that had them on closeout, besides getting the tubular Givi mounts, this was the best I could find. These are the tubular Givi mounts, made for many bikes (except Buell of course). You could maybe find one that has similar dimensions to a Buell and bend it a little to make it fit...but these things cost $150-250.  The picture posted before was from the first time I drilled holes in the bracket. The problem was that with lots of suspension compression, the Givi bracket could hit the swingarm (slight oversight). Without making a new bracket, I drilled new holes that were higher and farther back, probably gaining about an inch in height and even more swingarm clearance (due to the shape of them both flaring away from each other). Here's the best pic I have of the raw parts (before hole adjustment)  And a pic of the case with the Givi mount next to it. See how much capacity it has, try fitting that much stuff (x2) on your back and then be able to lock it up in 2 seconds and walk away from your bike.  As you can see the Givi brackets are chrome and the parts I have are raw 6061. Once I get the parts mounted and fit I'll sandblast them all and paint them with Buell frame color paint (thanks DaveS). They'll still be ugly, just not ugly and shiny! | ||
| Roc |
I have emailed Givi about the possibility of making XB mounts in the future, no reply yet. As a plan B I asked if they would give input about dimensions to assist in adapting a currently made bracket with as little trouble as possible. Anyone have an XB and a Givi mount for another bike? If so, would you like to see how far off the mounting points are? I am shooting for some E21ers. | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
While you're at it, get Corbin to make a seat for our bikes too! I've sent them a few requests. Ideally, Buell will come out with a hardbag option soon for the XB's, they had it in the past! I think the big problem with other Givi mounts is that most bikes have rear passenger handles (VFR, Bandit, SV, etc.) which provide mounting points. Most bikes also have high mount rear mufflers which Givi usually uses as one of many mounting points. For example, on an SV there are four mounting points on each side! The upper is just a clamp that hangs over the passenger grab rail. This is an SV650S with tubular rack.  I'm curious to see other mounting solutions for putting Givi's on an XB. Mine was just a first prototype that may work. | ||
| Davefla |
Thanks for the update, Cold. One question, though- do you plan to tie the two sides together and if so, how? It looks like your design will work fine as a cantilever, but I'd worry about a loaded bag causing some flex and then maybe swingarm contact. Of course, I worry a lot.  My plan is to fab brackets for the WingRack that will run from a new hole in the passenger footpeg bracket to a fabbed hanger which uses the underseat panel's holes & mount tabs. The hanger will use a transverse, 1" square bar of 6061 over the tire with the ends drilled and tapped. The underseat hanger's mount will have to include a plate across the top of the subframe to carry the load. For those of you who haven't pulled the tail section and had a look, the mount tabs for the underseat panel are REALLY basic, just a pair of (16, 18 gauge?) plates with captive nuts, bent into an L-shape and welded to the subframe. That wasn't surprising, they aren't meant to carry much more of a load than the underseat panel. One more issue is how to handle the WingRack's turn signal wiring. The mount stems of the turn signals pass through the steel license bracket and the plastic underseat panel, providing a stable conduit for the wiring. I'll probably have to find or fab some threaded tubing to replace the stems, maybe find some suitable plastic tubing and/or grommets. I haven't started to lay all this out, thanks to other projects. I've bought someone else's XB9 passenger peg brackets on eBay and I had a look at the subframe, of course. The next step is to make a cardboard template of the WingRack and start figuring out how to temporarily hold that in place while I make measurements. My setup is not going to be really pretty or as simple a take-off as yours, obviously. | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
Each side will be tied together with a crossbar, just a piece of flat stock. I mounted two eye bolts to the frame under the seat and drilled two small holes in the black plastic for access. I sent the pic of the underseat bolts to Roc (don't have them with me right now) but here's a pic of my initial design idea...  | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
The wingrack is cool because you can fit 3 bags! I figured I'd just get two large bags and mount like this so it's easily removable. I can't wait to see what you come up with! Here's the pic of the rear mounting bolts that will pass through the top cross plate (green in drawing above).  The internal mounting looks like this  Unfortunately the eye on eye bolts are huge compared to the diameter of the threads. These are 1/4-20 I think, around a half inch bolt (biggest hole I could fit in the rear plate). They're rated for 80lb each (static of course) but I figure anything helps. I may try to get some larger eye bolts and put a sleeve inside the eye so the washers hold them solid. Again, this is a prototype. I'll ride with the brackets on first, then empty bags, then add weight. All the while I'll watch for any flexing or potential problems before I load them with bowling balls! | ||
| Tgroghan |
I've been looking at the BMW F650's for ideas on bracket systems. Here are some ideas for others. http://faq.f650.com/FAQs/AftermarketLuggageFAQ.htm One of my ideas was to make a plate that takes place of the passenger seat and use that location as one of 3 to mount (bolt) a bracket system to. THe other 2 points would be the heel guards or rear footpegs. I want to make it a detachable unit. Last night I held up my S3 saddlebag on one side. I'd have to remove the heel guard at least to get that to work on the bike and fit more flush. I'd also have to relocate the rear turn signals or cut them down (more flush). | ||
| Coldwthrrider |
Here, just to show you how useful these bags can be....I'm out visiting a friend 1500 miles away. He doesn't own a car (lives in the city) but has an SV650S with three 45L cases. We just rode 240mi each way to take a trip to New York for some rock climbing. We loaded gear for two climbers (trad lead, if that means anything to you....lots of heavy 5hit) and camped overnight. Here's the pic of the loaded bike, way cool to be able to do this with just one little bike.  Also, the SV was pretty impressive. With two 150lb riders and three cases loaded (about 80lb total and lots of wind resistance) the thing could accelerate up hills in 6th gear! |
