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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 02:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well the title pretty much says it... I have been searching for a while now and I cannot find the answer anywhere.

I am looking at a 2005 XB12S with 31,000 miles. Everything is stock except exhaust. I haven't gotten to see bike yet. I plan to go for a ride and check it out.

But how many miles should someone expect to get before major repairs are necessary, ASSUMING its been well maintained?
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 03:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If well maintained some people are getting a lot of miles out of them. If it is beaten and neglected, then not very many at all (in my case).
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well i did assume that. i was kinda hoping for a number...
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Hammer71
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You truly can't put a specific number on it. Tramp had well over 250 thousand on his S-2 (i think its an S2). and last year was gasket replacement time. There are some XB's that have been reported to have well over 60 thousand and still going strong. The main thing I would check is the transmission as the motor itself is relatively easy to work on but transmission issues will require you to split the case. Go see it, start it and get it warm, plug the exhaust with a rag and listen to the engine, ride it check the tranny and see what ya get. If its taken care of Id say you could easily get another 15-20 out of it.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 08:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think it has a lot to do with how it's ridden. A bike that has been red lined all the time to squeeze that last bit of power will, IMO, be more likely to have problems than one that has lived it's life in the lower RPM range. The XB12 does really well in the lower RPMs on the street, and doesn't offer much more by pushing it hard. Some people either never seem to understand, or just don't like this trait of the XB12 and insist on running them hard. I've got 50K on the clock with no engine/transmission problems at all. From what I've heard, high RPMs are kind of hard on the bearings in the lower end.
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, I just remembered that I have a compression checker. What # should I be looking for?
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Hammer71
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hope you have small hands, real pain in the ass to get in there, not sure of number off the top of my head maybe someone else will chime in before i find out.
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

will i need a 90 degree for the comp checker? I have a swivel for my socket but i havent worked on a buell except a blast
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You can get really high compression numbers off of cylinders that are way out of spec., it proves nothing because I've done it and found cylinders way oval and far out of spec that were leaking like crazy. Only a static leakdown will show you anything useful. And good luck getting the rear cylinder connected without rotating the engine.

With 31,000 I would probably go into it assuming it needed a top end and make an offer in line with the $750 to $1500 it will cost for you to do the rebuild, way more for a shop to build it.
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 01:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well he agreed to 2500$ but i havent seen the bike yet. i guess i will be patient and get a bike with less miles.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$2500 is probably a good price and leaves room for a top end rebuild if the jugs are worn out.
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 03:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well he just sent me a pic, and I see that it has been dropped. The exhaust has a flat spot where it slid on the ground. The front brake lever is bent and the rear lever is about half as long as its supposed to be.
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

$1500
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

he didn't like that idea. lol
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 07:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The frightening thing is that if it has been ridden hard, seen the rev limit a lot, it'll have a risk of bottom end going. Compression check is one thing but the bottom end is going to be impossible to judge without major surgery.
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Imblasted
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 07:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well im not going to do it. ill just wait for a nice xb12 with low miles to come my way (south florida)
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2012 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If he didn't like it, he should have fixed it before selling it.
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