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Austinrider
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 08:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I finally got around to removing my broken D&D Pipe off my bike.
Hats off to the guys at D&D. I called their tech linee earlier this week and explained my plight. They informed me its no problem, they will arrange for Fed Ex to pick up the pipe and take a look at it. He said, more than likely - I will have a new pipe. Usually the guys in the finishing department cant redo the finish on the broken pipes and they just replace it.

Josh, after I get the pipe back from D&D I will contact you.

With our furthe A-do (adiue?) here are the pics. You guys on dialup, Im sorry.























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Austinrider
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, forgot to mention.
Man that was one greasy job.
The dealership just replaced my primary cover (warranty work - god I live my dealership) due to a stripped thread on the primary, and I had a little bit of an oil spill when I changed the oil last week (when I noticed by pipe was busted)
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Jasonxb12s
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Austin, did you strip the primary or did they? I'm just wondering since mine is stripped out and I was the last one to open it.
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M1combat
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Phil... Could you do me a HUGE favor and let me know what the inside diameter of each pipe is? Thanks in advance : ).

edited by M1Combat on July 10, 2004
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Austinrider
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Jason -
Originally they stripped them out. They did a quick Heli-Coil fix and it lasted until the next time the fluids were changed out.

I called Buell customer service, they said that once the dealer checks it out (obvious for abuse) then it is a warranty covered item. Who would use a steel bolt on an aluminum case? Seems to me this may be a chronic problem for us, IF we dont follow the proper torque specs on it.


M1combat - All 3 pipes? I will shoot ya a pm when I get back from work tomorrow with the info.
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Deerhunter17
Posted on Saturday, July 10, 2004 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man you got some serious birds!
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M1combat
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 03:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just the exits... I'll use a 2" collector.
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Austinrider
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Deerhunter -
Know of a way to get rid of them?
The are killing my dogfood costs.

I have 4 dogs, and I have to feed them outside due to work schedules.

I've thought of an owl outside, but havent heard of much luck with those. Any suggestions are Greatly welcomed on the bird problem
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Leeaw
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 07:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where I work, we have an area of the facility that is fenced in, and they have audio of a screech owl that scares off birds.

It works well for the birds, but it does not stop the new admissions to the jail.
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Buellin_ri
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Where can you get a D&D muffler? I've looked everywhere and I think there website is down.
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Darthane
Posted on Sunday, July 11, 2004 - 08:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Call Dave over at Appleton HD/Buell. His number should be in the Sponsor section.
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Koz5150
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 12:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave has one sitting on the shelf right now... I saw it there Friday.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It seems like there are a lot of folks with this issue - I wonder how long it takes a manufacturer to concede that there is a problem and then change the welds to actually correct it. If they send out the exact same product as a replacement, isn't it reasonable to expect the exact same results?

I think I would like to buy a D&D but not if it is just a matter of time until I have to send it back . . .
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Darthane
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 07:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's not broken at a weld. It appears that the weight of the plate and chin fairing combined with the shake-rattle-and-roll just made it snap.

-=shrugs=-

I like my race can, I've got a Drummer to replace it with, and even if I liked the sound or performance of a D&D more I wouldn't spend more money on a muffler, with or without broken mounts.
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Mr_cuell
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 07:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Good point as far as it not being on the welds - I don't know why that was stuck in my head.

I guess it is just hard for me to justify spending more on a product that has such known weakness as this plate.


Other D&D and buyers/dealers - how do you justify it? Have they said anything has changed in the way they build them?
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Austinrider
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 09:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mr. Cuell --
I would gladly put another D&D on my bike, this pipe offers something that I want - its loud at an affordable price.

It is not a horrible performer either.
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Daves
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 09:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually, I don't have a sponsor banner yet(Blake)
But I am a sponsor.
The one that was on the shelf is gone but I have 2 more coming in Soon.
1-866-757-1651
Ask for Dave in the sales dept!
Badweb price 535.00

Dave
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Noface
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

AustinRider,

man, you gotta wash your bike every now and then. That thing looks like hell! Mine's been on my bike for almost a year and still looks good.

edited by noface on July 12, 2004
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Austinrider
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

/raises his hands to the heavens

"The Lord washes my bike. The Lord shall keep it clean"


Actually, most of the time it sits outside (no garage to speak of). I have 3 male dogs (see where this is headed yet?) who INSIST the back and front tires of my motorcycle are their territory.
I gave up keeping the damn thing clean until I get into a house with a garage (offer out on a house as we speak).

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420at145mph
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 12:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mines cracking ON the weld at the bottom of that mounting bracket
and stress cracking out from there
just a matter of time ( or one too many wheelies)
before mine looks like that
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Spyder12s
Posted on Monday, July 12, 2004 - 01:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine has broke on that bottom bracket twice now ..
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Noface
Posted on Wednesday, July 14, 2004 - 12:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

wow... I dunno. I've had mine almost a year, and I prolly do as many wheelies as anyone else and mine looks fine.

I do notice that the "Y" pipe on mine is different than AustinRider's. Maybe a later generation of pipe? It's a true "Y" rather than one pipe welded to another, like an intersection. -err... don't know if that sounds right or not. I'll try to take a pic to compare tomorrow.
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