| Author | Message | ||
     Jrr |
Anyone use an oil additive to quiet the ticking, or should i just get used to the ticking noise? | ||
| 420at145mph |
i used lucas seemed to quite it down quite a bit just dont use too much or u get what they call stickation | ||
| Jrr |
thanks, i will try the lucas. Bike is still new (300 miles) just don't like the tick. | ||
| 420at145mph |
anoying as hell isnt it damn vtwins | ||
| Jrr |
yeah, i thought something was wrong with the bike when i first started it. | ||
| Fullpower |
i have never been a snake oil fan, but i am trying to stay open- minded. so whats with lucas? what's it do? does it thin the oil? any other effects? | ||
| 420at145mph |
dunno for sure i heard about it from my ex's dad he builds and races drag cars n has used it for years goto the local napa store n see if they got a display its 2 little setups with gears in it 1 side regular oil the other has lucas added the side with out it when u turn the gears the oils moves with the gears but the side with lucas the oil actually sticks to the gears and makes it run alot smoother | ||
| Xbvictor |
How much lucas oil did you use in your bike 420? | ||
| Bads1 |
I have one better.Get a big bowl fill it with extra creamy peanut butter,Skippy works best but Jiff is OK but not chunky.About 6 large jars will do add about ohhhhh 1/2 bottle of peanut oil,or corn oil if thats all you have stir until whipped.Presto!!!! this will cure any knocking,ticking,or any noises that are most likely common to have on a American V-Twin.LOL | ||
| 420at145mph |
it calls for an 80/20 mix thats what i used | ||
| Dcmortalcoil |
Before, anyone put any additive, read this article: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm We can easily quieten engine noise, by thickening or foaming the oil. Remember the days when used car people added saw dust to the engine oil to hide engine noise? Good oil doesn't need any additive. That's what I keep reading over and over. | ||
| Bomber |
Remember PT Branum's quote, gents . . . . lot's of snake oil out there . . .. . to quote an engine designer of my acquaintance, "if we coul dput somthing in these things that would extend their lives, make em run quieter/smoother/longer and make more power, don't you think we'd do it?" this, form a guy that designs engines for very expensive capital equipment type long return on investment type stuff . . . . course, if it makes ya feel better . . .. go ahead on | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Lucas came about back when the quality of oil wasn't what it is now. I personally wouldn't use Lucas with a synthetic oil, if my engine had less then 50k miles on it, or unless the engine had a known oil issue like leaks or bad consumption. Lucas is great for fleet vehicles where you can't be certain how the vehicle will be treated by the driver, but for home use, well as I stated, I wouldn't use it unless the above was true, and I couldn't get a decent oil, or my oil consumption was such that it was cheaper to add the Lucas and use a cheap oil. Then its a case of how soon can I get the oil consumption fixed. edited by wyckedflesh on July 01, 2004 | ||
| Skully |
Based on research that I've done, I highly recommend against adding any additives to modern oils. Today's oils have additives that are designed to work as a package and anything added after the fact can actually cause more harm than good. Keith | ||
| Daves |
So, I should stop putting Koolaid in mine? But it adds 4 HP! Dave | ||
| Prof_stack |
Hey, I've got an OLD can of STP you can have. Come and get it! ![: ]](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/proud.gif) | ||
| Brucelee |
The old time car dealers used to use Lucas to deal with an engine that was going to tank within 500 miles. Why would you use it in a Buell? It is a twin, they are noisy. | ||
| 984_cc |
I don't think they are noisy simply because they are twins. In this particular engine, it's just the inherent nature of the beast. It would be nice if it was quieter though (mechanical bits). | ||
| Jrr |
Sounds like i won't be using any oil additives. Thanks for the input... | ||
| 420at145mph |
i used it it DID quite it so nya | ||
| Brucelee |
"used it it DID quite it so nya" Brilliant logic as always! | ||
| 420at145mph |
thank you i concur | ||
| Socoken |
i understand the logic in not mixing with, or tampering with, or contaminating your oil with a substance it was designed for. i understand that XLs especially make a lot of noise, and other makes of bikes are worse yet, but most of it is not detrimental to engine health/performance. but ticking and rattling are sounds of metal parts making contact, right? from the cams moving in the bearings as each one goes under load while creating lift and then frees up when closing. or from the slack in the drive gears? or from the lifters? so if you quiet that noise, by reducing the contact, wouldnt that also be better for the parts involved? just talking out my ••• | ||
| Blake |
You can put 150 wt gear oil into your crankcase too and it will quite your engine. But it would be very damaging to do so. It is likely that Lucas stuff will also have detrimental effects. Your valvetrain may quite while your cylinders and rings are falling apart. | ||
| Socoken |
so there is a line that you cannot cross, where too heavy, and you starve the top end, and too light, and things rattle and get hot, and the oil breaks down. i would imagine that line varies from the condition of the machine its being used it, and from the average temp in which it is run. i guess what it comes down to, it how hard it is to suppress a rattle or a tick. cant you trust that if you only decrease noise slightly that you havent gone too heavy? or can you make a big difference in noise, and still be light enough? in any case, all these bikes make a racket, yet MOST of them remain healthy in spite of it. the point im trying to make, more to myself than anyone i guess, it that why risk it? why fix what isnt broken? | ||
| R1DynaSquid |
With the Buell V-twins..so long as they are making a racket dont worry..all is normal. Its when they suddenly become quiet that you have to worry. | ||
| Blake |
Well said. | ||
| Opto |
If you want it to sound like like a sewing machine, simply buy a jap bike. | ||
| Glitch |
I want my oil to flow. After all, the oil in these bike are helping cool things off. Try to take a look at what all is going on in a Buell engine. Then notice how exposed the engine is. Now notice that on the XBs there is no gas tank above the heads to quieten the sound. More like the air box and the frame are putting the sound "in your face". Now look at a water cooled I4. Gas tank above the heads. Water jacket helps deaden the noise quite a bit also. The stroke is shorter and no push rods. Two different animals, even though they have the same job. | ||
| Leeaw |
The cheapest way to reduce engine noise and hearing loss is a pair of foam ear plugs. That is what I did after having problems with my M2. I stopped worrying, and problems stopped happening. As long as it screams when you wack the throttle, it's fine. | ||
| Grancan1 |
Well said Leeaw. It is the nature of the beast. If you think the Buell is bad you should have pulled up next to my Ducati. It sounded as if it was about to come apart. | ||
| Davefl |
Yea I concur that a Duc makes more noise. A friend of mine had a 748 and every time I pulled up beside him I thought something was falling off of my bike until I realized it was the Duc. | ||
| Brucelee |
"Its when they suddenly become quiet that you have to worry" Well said! | ||
| Jrr |
Sound like normal engine noise, that is good to hear. Now that i know that i will not worry about it and enjoy the ride! | ||
| Fullpower |
worry not, enjoy the ride. and wear ear plugs. have a damn nice weekend. | ||
| Skully |
Get a louder exhaust!  Keith | ||
| Starter |
Don't worry about the noise too much - just get a mate to ride behind so he can collect all the bits that vibrate off. |
