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Yellow_xb9s
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 11:19 am: |
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Anyone runnin' an oversized rear on their bike? If so, do you like it? Do you have a pic you can post? |
Curve__carver
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 01:13 pm: |
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Your handling would be adversely affected...it will have slower turn in. It may also cause some issues with cornering stability and steering geometry. |
Glitch
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 01:18 pm: |
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Not to mention the rim isn't made for a bigger tire, so the money you spent on that new big ol' tire is wasted 'cause it will wear out faster.
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Johncr250
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 03:25 pm: |
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I don`think you could go any bigger even if you wanted to. On my XB12 there is about 3/8inch between the stock tire and the drive belt. |
Fullpower
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 04:15 pm: |
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3/8" is a LOT of room.certainly you could fit a 190 width, but the rim width would squish the tire, and leave the wrong profile. |
Ortegakid
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 04:35 pm: |
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I've been running 190's since they came out,(supercorsa),works great,def makes it turn it faster,and likes to be leaned way over,kind of makes it oversteer more,will take pics,post later tonight.IMHO no real benefit,I bought them cheap,will last 1k,maybe two. |
Evil_twin
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 04:50 pm: |
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It's my understanding that you can run a 200 if you do the chain conversion. I like the PHAT look but I wouldn't want to affect the handling of my bike. My $.02. Rich |
984_cc
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:17 pm: |
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Yeah, fatter tyres make for slower turn-in. You can feel how the rear-end trails the front at slow speeds in the parking lot. Just take a spin on an enduro or a nice handling vintage bike and feel the difference. I was thinking about going to a slimmer tyre when the time comes to replace my stock one. |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:36 pm: |
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Misato
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:42 pm: |
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its better to be dead and cool than alive and uncool
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Bomber
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 05:56 pm: |
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me, I'll be glad when the whole phat tire thing calms down . . . . .even the choppers look stoopid with them I think . . . . . . . |
Wyckedflesh
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 06:08 pm: |
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If all it ever ran was the dragstrip...I could see that, but damn look how much of the tire he has used and barely has the bike leaned over...what a waste... |
Bykergeek
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 07:18 pm: |
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Haven't tried it on my buell but I went up one size to 170 on my Ducati Monster. I can't tell the difference as far as handling. My Speed Triple had a 190 on it and it also handled and steered impecably. But I also don't live on a track or ride like Nicky Hayden... Appearance is a big part of the motorcycle lifestyle. Do what you want. If you don't like it, you can always go back down next time. |
Buellfool
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:04 pm: |
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My understanding is that the stock Dunlop 180 is really the size of a 190, and that if you swap the stock rubber out for a 180 Avon or Pirelli then the handling is improved not just for the better tyre but also because of the swap to a real 180? YES/NO??? |
Johncr250
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:05 pm: |
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I love the fat look too! |
Rocketman
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:19 pm: |
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A 190 \ 60 has a larger contact patch due to its flatter profile. A 180 \ 55 is a steep more round profile tyre thus will allow the bike to turn in faster. A 190 section is used in racing if the track has predominantly long sweeping corners. A higher corner speed is aimed for using the advantage of larger contact patch whilst the tyre is laid over. A 180 section is used if the track is twisty. The steeper profile allows the bike to get on its side quicker thus you will turn in quicker. If you have ridden the same bike with both size tyres, you will probably notice the 190 section tyre is worn closer to the edge than a 180 section. This leads people to believe the bike has laid over further (the knee down myth LOL) but that is not the case. Because the 190 section is flatter than the 180 the edge can be reached at a much sooner angle of lean. A real hero will burn the edges of his 180's. Check in the bike park before you decide to dice with him. Rocket |
984_cc
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 08:24 pm: |
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Buellfool, I think I heard that somewhere too. I think someone here said that. I was thinking about a 170. I had an Aprilia ETV 1000 once. It had a 150 section tyre on the back. That was a cruise missile up the twisties. Suprised quite a few sportbike riders. I think for most streetbikes, it is more of a cosmetic issue really (the wide look). I really don't like the way my bike handles (feels) with the stock tyre size on back. It's difficult to explain unless you can compare it to an older bike with slim tyres or an enduro like I said. |
Ortegakid
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 09:00 pm: |
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What rocketman stated is so very true,will show ya'll the pics soon,my 190 does not get fried to the edge like the 180 does,but sticks real good on its side,is perfect for the high speed twisties of ortega! |
Ortegakid
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 09:03 pm: |
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However!??? My 190 is (supercorsa),and is therefore 'sposed to be best of both worlds,can only tell you,best I've ever been on,including the 'A' 208gp dunlops! |
Ortegakid
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 09:07 pm: |
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What happened,wrote 190/55,..just figured it out,it thought i wrote ! |
R1DynaSquid
| Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 09:48 pm: |
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The big @ssed rear tires look pretty cool on a "chopper", but on a sportbike it doesnt help ythe handling 1 iota.
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Rocketman
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 05:41 am: |
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The width of the rear tyre is determined by the manufacturer, in the case of large capacity sports bikes, to be the most suitable size for its purpose. Certain production based race series will not allow the use of anything but stock wheels. For this reason the manufacturer has given said machine the most suitable wheel for its purpose. If you see a fat rear tyre fitted standard on a bike like an R1, GSXR 1000, ZX10R or whatever, it is NOT a gimmick. It is there for a purpose (and your safety). Rocket |
Bykergeek
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 06:22 am: |
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If you see a fat rear tyre fitted standard on a bike like an R1, GSXR 1000, ZX10R or whatever, it is NOT a gimmick. It is there for a purpose (and your safety) Fat Tires/Tyres save lives! |
Ftd
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 08:07 am: |
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360 tire
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Glitch
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 08:20 am: |
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Curve__carver
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 08:30 am: |
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Does it float? |
Glitch
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 08:31 am: |
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Sure wouldn't want to ride it in the rain! |
Bomber
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 09:08 am: |
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exile chaps are the only "fat" tyred scoots I lust after at all . . . . . they are building what I would build for myself, if I needed a bar hopper -- note, however, that BOTH tyres are good sized . . . also note their primary environment ain't strafing apexes |
Glitch
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 09:34 am: |
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Didja ever notice we think a lot alike?
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Bomber
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 02:41 pm: |
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be afraid, brother -- very afraid indeed! |
Buellkowski
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 03:32 pm: |
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Old school fat...
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Rokoneer
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 07:45 pm: |
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Ah Buellkowski....Now THAT is truly awesome machine..... |
Jasonblue
| Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 07:54 pm: |
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Exile bikes rock, the widest they go is a 230. Wife says I can get one when the XB is paid off. If you get one of their bikes in "kit" form tou save around 10 grand. Even then they are high. HMMMM...Buy an Exile or make a monster XB. |
Kaudette
| Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 02:14 pm: |
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Forget going wide on the XB - the bike is not made for it and you'll end up looking like all the above mentioned idiots that ride from the garage to the bar and back - usually all of 10 miles round trip - and they probably stop at the gas station each way just for the looks. That guy on the jap Dyna posted just looks dumb... Mount a 180 and be a man and try to wear the edges - I've made it a few times on my Pirelli's but it isn't easy... There's a reason poser & loser are so near. |
Jasonblue
| Posted on Sunday, July 04, 2004 - 02:42 pm: |
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When I said make a monster XB I meant motor work, not a fat tire. |