| Author | Message | ||
     Williep13 |
I am a fellow bueller I have two X1's (99 & 01) but I am looking at getting an XB specificaly a 2003 XB9R. What are the goods and bads with this bike and should I be looking for something else. How does the XB compare to an X1? What is a good price to pay for one with 13,xxx miles with jardine exhaust? | ||
| Froggy |
Smoother, better handling, more refined. It is better in every way.
Hard to say if you should be looking at something else. What are you looking for in a bike?
Around $3k depending on condition. Are you looking to sell an X1, specifically the 99 if it is a blue with race stripe? | ||
| Williep13 |
Thanks for the input. I am just looking for something to ride. I have a 04 Sportster that is blew up (for sale if anyone is interested), a 99 X1 that is broke, a 77 Shovlehead that needs massive TLC, the only running motorcycle I have is my drag bike I can't ride on the road. The 99 is black and it needs some work. I would be willing to sell it for the right price. I am just looking for a good dependable bike with some power. I don't mind turning wrenches on a bike but not rebuilding the motor twice a year. Is the XB9 quicker than the X1? | ||
| Froggy |
The XB9 is down on power vs the X1, but is lighter and has shorter gearing and a higher redline, so its a bit of a tossup. The XB12 is very similar to the X1 motor, so it will be a more familiar experience while the XB9 will feel a bit more like an inline4 needing some more revs to get the same work done. You say you want a good dependable bike with power, how about an 1125R? They are a few bucks more than an older XB, but they are lightyears ahead in power, comfort, dependablity, and handling. I've been itching for a race stripe blue X1, something special about them makes me want one, I don't think any others will do it for me. | ||
| Williep13 |
I have looked at the 1125R but your looking at twice the $ for those working on a budget. I am also not a big fan of the looks of the 1125R. So is the XB9R essentially a 883 sportster? Is that the 9 and 12 in the titles? 9 for 883 and 12 for 1203? If so can the XB9R be turned into a 1200 as easily as a regular sportster? Being use to the X1 would I be dissapointed in the power the XB9 has to offer? | ||
| Glitch |
The 9 is 984cc the 12 is 1203cc. Just changing the cylinders you can get 1050cc on the 9. To get 1203cc you have to machine the cases. I really like the 9's engine. But it's a personal preference. Try to get a test ride on both to see which you like best. Most of what I've heard from Tube Frame riders, they tend to like the XB12s best. | ||
| Froggy |
The XB9 is 984cc, not 883. The difference between the XB9 and 12 is just the engine internals, they share the same bore, heads, cylinders, cases, etc, so you can easily turn the 984 into a 1203 or 1250 if you are willing to open the motor and swap parts. I can't say for sure if you will be disappointed, it will be different for sure. | ||
| 46champ |
The XB12, 1200 Sportster, and your X1 have the same bore and stroke. Think of the XB9 as a destroked XB12 and the 883 Sportster as a debored 1200 Sportster. | ||
| Greg_e |
If the sporty was really cheap, I might be interested for a cafe conversion. But since the motor is the heart of the beast, it would have to be really cheap not used Harley cheap if you know what I mean. Would be better if it was the 883 version. Seems to me that $3000 would go a long way to fixing one of your broken machines, what's a fresh S&S motor cost? I have a 2003 XB9R that I'm getting ready to tear into to investigate a stuck lifter. Otherwise it has been a decent machine after fixing the issues from the previous owners. It has enough power for me and is capable of getting me arrested in probably every state in the country if I ride it that way. I do suggest a headlight upgrade of one form or another, the stock lights absolutely suck, not sure if the recalled lights are any better. | ||
| Andymnelson |
I am 99% sure that the primary gearing is the same, but that the secondary gearing is a bit taller on the X1. That is easily worked around however, since the X1 has an adjustable axle and there are other pulley combinations (export versions, aftermarket). The X1 gearing is shorter than the XB12 gearing however. The X1 is a beast, the XB9 is so much more refined. If you want a Sunday afternoon ride that thrills, get the X1. If you want a daily ride, get the XB9. I have an XB9, XB12 and an X1, the XB9 is my favorite of all the motors....but each bike has it's purpose. | ||
| Williep13 |
Thanks for all the input. I think I am a bit more confused than before on what I want. I think I would prefer the XB12 I am use to a lot of power. All my bike are built up way beyond most would build them. With all that said I found a 07 XB12 Firebolt with 1,500 miles on it, what is a good price for it? | ||
| Terrys1980 |
$5k is the value and $4.5k would be a good price. | ||
| Itgflash |
Just changing the cylinders you can get 1050cc on the 9. What cylinders would you replace th original cylinders with to get the 1050ccs? | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
I would go for the twelve. There are lots of improvements from 03 to 07 notably the final drive belt which was rather troublesome in the 03's. Add the Buell race ECU if you can find one,and a Drummer exhaust, K+N air filter and you should have about 85 rear wheel HP, the flattest torque curve imaginable, and an engine that is still pretty reliable. Don't forget to set up the suspension according to the owners manual: the XB Buell suspension is much more sensitive to set up than Tubers or Harleys. (Message edited by gentleman_jon on June 13, 2011) | ||
| Williep13 |
Here she is, 07 XB12R 1,556 miles.    | ||
| Blaylock1988 |
Sweet! I bought my 07 XB9SX with 1500 miles on it for $4500. That windscreen looks like a really tall hair-do. lol | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Congratulations. Nice looking bike. My first Buell XB was yellow. You may want to keep an eye on that Jardine muffler. They are pretty flimsy, and tend to just fall apart from the rather strong vibration of the Buell engine. The Drummer muffler has great sound, steel construction, and the flattest torque curve of all. A pair of frame pucks is always a good idea: the frame/fuel tanks are easy to damage in a fall, and hard to fix because they contain the fuel. Keep the shiny side up! | ||
| Williep13 |
Can you get shorter shocks for these to lower the rear end? I am only 5'8" and it is all I can do to reach the ground? Also who makes a more comfortable seat? | ||
| Terrys1980 |
You can lower the bike using the forks, triple trees and yellow spring shock from an SCG. Corbin makes good seats, but American Sport Bike will have a new seat available soon. Have a look at this thread. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?32777/637636 | ||
| Briz31 |
Buell XB9s (bolt-on) Big Bore Kit. Well it's being rebuilt. 1.Revolution Performance 1050cc Bolt-on kit with CP Pistons. 2.NRHS stg2 CNC porting. 3.Hurricane adj. pushrods with polished tubes. 4.direct link / Dynojet remapping. Revolution Performance or NRHS both have kits.  | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
I want to do that to my bike in the worst way. But I need a second vehicle first then I can tear in to my bike and put a 1050 and some head work and some other stuff. But I am thinking when I do tear my bike down I will tear it all the way down and freashen up the transmission as well since i will be in there already. |
