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Roysbuell
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a 2009 XBscg that is about to hit the 5,000 mark. It is still running dino oil and now the dealer tells me the engine will leak if i switch to synthetic. What all is involved in the 5,000 service. Is the $300.00 worth the service at the dealer?
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Illbuell
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All I've ever run is synthetic.. Never had a leak in my XB in 9 years. If you have a shop manual and you have some mechanical skill, Do it your self. Easy stuff.
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Lostartist
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the engine will leak with synthetic oil? really?

The buell maintenance book = about $50
Oil = $60 (synthetic is about $14 a quart)
Filter = $4 max
getting rid of the dependence on that dealer = priceless
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The leaking with synthetic thing is a myth, unless you got some old piece of junk that was on its last legs anyway.

Do the service yourself if possible, it isn't hard, even without the service manual. It basically is an oil change, and and check over of some other things.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

and now the dealer tells me the engine will leak if i switch to synthetic.




Excellent! Most people learn that a particular dealer is unqualified to work on their bike in MUCH more painful and expensive ways than you learned it! What a bargain!
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Andymnelson
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Is the $300.00 worth the service at the dealer?




not at a dealer that tells you syn will make your engine leak!


quote:

Oil = $60 (synthetic is about $14 a quart)




good grief, what do you buy?! I but Mobil1 syn at Walmart in 5 quart jugs for $22.

there is NOTHING tricky at the 5k service. Do it yourself.
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Lostartist
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amisol at a motorcycle place not harley, so yeah but it was my first oil change on the bike and figured, I'd heard only good things about amisol so well, I'll spoil the bike for a bit until I'm sure it's mechanically sound and everything, got the bike used. so this was the first changing of fluids deal, next oil change going to be something like Mobil1, but I"m always forget what to look for to buy it so I buy the motorcycle safe stuff
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Andymnelson
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah yes. Amsoil IS great stuff, I just can't get myself to spend the $$ on oil!

I have been more than satisfied with the Mobil1 syn with about 35,000 miles combined on 3 Buells with the stuff in both holes.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mobil 1 20w50 V-Twin oil is $10 a quart at autozone, and the xb lump does just fine with it.
As others have mentioned, synthetic oil will
not make your engine leak.
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Jbolt
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I just did my 20,000mi service. Switched from Mobil 1 to Amsoil in both. Shifts a lot smother, I think the extra $$ is worth it.

Oh, I switched to syn at my 1,000mi service, no leaks yet.
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Roysbuell
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Can Mobil 1 V-Twin 20w-50 be used in the transmission? What oil filter do I use?
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Valiant_duke
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 07:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep, indeed! (oh and well put!)
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Dallasb
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Where are you guys buying your amsoil? I get it for 7.50/qt or $30/gal.
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Netty2424
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I guess the question is where are you getting it for $7.50/Qt?? Nice work Dallas!

I just got it for $9.50/Qt and thought I got a good deal.

You can sign up on the Amsoil website to be a preferred customer, pay like $10 bucks and you get wholesale cost.
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Boltrider
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Roy, you can use Mobile 1 V-twin in the tranny too. I don't know the part # for the filter, but it's the same filter used on the Blast and all XB models.

http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/9029.html

There's a list on here that crosses that filter with other brands also.
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Canucklovingbrit
Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go with Amsoil, stick with Amsoil! I've had nothing but great experiences with it in both engine & trans. Sure, it may be a couple bucks more, but that's cheap protection as far as I'm concerned. The "synthetic causes leaks" thing is BS. 22,000 miles on my 12R, having switched from dino at 10,000 and still oil tight! Plus I doubt Erik Buell would have signed a 3 year sponsorship deal with them for Erik Buell Racing's AMA Superbike effort, if Amsoil wasn't up to snuff! If Amsoil products are good enough for Erik Buell Racing, they're good enough for me!
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Roysbuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks everyone for the great advise I am going to do the service myself and spend the extra cash on some front and rear bike stands.
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Gunut75
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Snowhownd
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes front and rear stands make life much easier when you are working on the beast! No more hanging the bike from the rafters or blocks of wood! Worth the investment. I got a set on ebay for half the price of the pit bulls and have been very happy
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Roysbuell
Posted on Tuesday, April 26, 2011 - 11:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What stands did you get? I was planning on the pitbull stands.
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Snowhownd
Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried to find the info on the ones I bought but no luck. It was like 4 years ago so who knows - doesn't look like they are sold on ebay any longer... they are very similar to the pit bulls - I'm sure you'll be very happy with those.
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Lostartist
Posted on Friday, April 29, 2011 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

would this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BikeIt-Front-Rear-M otorcycle-Stand-Set-GSXR-R1-R6-CBR-/220491692950?p t=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3356543b9 6#ht_1357wt_886

work ok?
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Snowhownd
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The key is figuring out if the rear stand is wide enough to accept the Buell. I figured out what mine are, they are T-Rex. As I said, I'm very happy with them.
http://www.t-rex-racing.com/
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Drfudd
Posted on Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

its always better to do the service yourself, and if you need any help the "other" buell forum has some really nice how to videos
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