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Odie
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 07:29 am: | 
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We don't have any guns?!?!?! Funny, my concealed carry permit in Alabama is reciprocated with most states from Ca. to Maine......No guns?!?!?!?!? |
Curtyd
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 08:15 am: |
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Dax, haven't had the time to read all your posts here on this page but a cursory read reveals a very incisive and funny analysis again. I think you and I may bear out the principle that good natured opposition is part and parcel of this thing we call the US of A. Why do so many get so uptight when they read a viewpoint that is inopposite to their own? Is it because they have built a house of beliefs to surround themselves that ultimately lies in the shifting sands rather than bedrock? Check out the latest post of mine in the WAR IS THE ANSWER thread, religious opinions are always highly volatile, but I just had to put it out there for review. Will I get sanctioned by the owner? |
Shazam
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 10:06 am: |
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"I was sitting eating my donut....."
priceless! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Misato
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:43 am: |
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I know he put it there to inflame others, but that pic is from Reservoir Dogs which was a wild and bloody @ssed movie. Huge cult flick now days.
that is a GREAT movie |
420at145mph
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:46 am: |
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and the delicate little eyes of your fellow badwebbers had it removed (and the one with gas)
meh no biggy
i DO love that movie but dyna is right i just put it in there to •••• off the cops who were talking ••••
just let both these threads die already its kinda hard to refrain from my normal witty comebacks
edited by 420at145mph on June 22, 2004 |
Raraf
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 12:50 pm: |
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CharlieBoy,
I presented them because they are the norm to me. 98% of the cops I have encountered are this way. I was even nice enough to let my brother in law live with me while he was training to be a state trooper. Mind you, I have encountered approximately 200 cops in my lifetime and most made me feel like I was lucky to come home that night. Cop injustices are in the media, read your newspaper man but the investigations are handled internally. Here in Denver, cops break into the wrong house and kill a guy. A cop speeding with no lights on hits a homeless man and kills him. In Portland, cops shot up a loon with a butter knife over 30 times. One of the cops was overheard earlier saying that he couldn't wait to break in his new Glock. I yessired and nosired a cop who didn't like my chosen profession and called me a wire-head. He was pissed that I wasn't drinking and driving and my nosirs and yessirs didn't help me then. And the ball is NOT in my court if they have a gun. You pull out a gun on one of these guys, he will either kill you or you will go to court. How many cases have you heard of where a guy walks away from that one? I owned guns as a kid and used to hunt all the time. My stepdad taught me to respect guns. I do not hunt now and am able to defend myself without one. The chances are higher that my wife will shoot me with it or it getting stolen than me being able to defend myself. Enjoy your bed. When you wake up and see one of these protectors pointing a shotgun at your 6 month old little brother and with their fingers on their shotgun and pistol triggers aimed at your head and chest you will think differently. When your car overheats and a cop pulls over and tears out your seat cushions and drives off without helping you and when you get stripped searched three times at the airport in one evening by these public servants you get a little jaded. |
Shazam
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:33 pm: |
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"witty comebacks......."
priceless HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
420at145mph
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:44 pm: |
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blake cant u just delete the thread?
it really is quite pathetic when the 2 people who were flaming each other stopped posting like 5 hours ago n yet it just keeps on going n going n going
edited by 420at145mph on June 22, 2004 |
Stealthxb
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:45 pm: |
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1984 |
Charlieboy6649
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 02:58 pm: |
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I'm done... Like I said, I don't discount that it happens. Just not to the degree - ahh whatever! How many times was the man told to drop the butter knife! I'm of the opinion that if you do not do what a cop says he should SHOOT YOU! So were not going to agree.
How about those preload adjusters Daves got??? Beautiful aren't they! |
Buellny
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 04:20 pm: |
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I spent several years in the Army and they (the Army) was very happy to send me to many different countries in which I saw many different kinds of cops. I like ours best.
If you want to complain ,then travel around the world a little bit and see how bad "bad cops" really are. I'm not talking about just 3rd World countries either.
But Hey, that's just my opinion.
edited by buellny on June 22, 2004 |
Dasxb9s
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 09:44 pm: |
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Curtyd...
As you suggested, I took a look at that thread. WAY over my head. I have read most of the NT and it is very complex. Complex in the time it came from, and more so as to the world now. I someday intend to find and study a compilation of the religions of the world, to include those that are "dead" religions or considered mythology. I wonder (if some or) which of today's religions, if not all, will be considered mythology a few/several thousand years from now. The whole thing fascinates me, really beyond proper comprehension!
When asked what religion I am. I often claim to be Reorganized Druid. The reorganized form not believing or condoning human sacrifice! I sidestep that question for a reason, and doing so often gives many to an inaccurate speculation as to why. (refer to the last sentence in this paragraph!) Like anyone could ever get a straight answer from me on select subjects! I feel religion is a very personal belief/concept, and it is easier for an individual to understand their total belief, than to articulate it fully to another!
Sir, I will say this. Very insightful and passionate postings.
As to your questions...
"Why do so many get so uptight when they read a viewpoint that is in opposite to their own? Is it because they have built a house of beliefs to surround themselves that ultimately lies in the shifting sands rather than bedrock?"
First question... There may be near countless answers to that, as environmental experiences unique to an individual tempers much of how a person perceives a subject. Most likely a rhetorical question at best, or one that may have a different answer for each individual. At least if analyzed with appropriate depth to have a complete answer.
Second Question... You may have something that is very revealing with just the formulation of that question! Kinda spinning of my comment on your first question, I believe an individual puts many conscious and subconscious aspects together to build and strengthen ones beliefs.
But I am sure you could have predicted my response, as I am sure in some form you too see the complexity of the questions when recognizing the underlying human behavior aspect.
As to the last question... time will provide an answer! |
420at145mph
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 22, 2004 - 11:57 pm: |
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holy crap i ALMOST read that
blake cmooooooooon man just kill the threads |
Brucelee
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 08:34 am: |
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"I'm of the opinion that if you do not do what a cop says he should SHOOT YOU! So were not going to agree. "
This would be the assumption I would make. That is probably why I don't have any problems with the police. I know why they are there.
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Torqer
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 08:41 am: |
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Stealthxb : not a nibble. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 09:26 am: |
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Gentlemen, put down your weapons and step away from the thread! Badweb policy distinctly prohibits personal attacks - please refrain.
Custodian |
Chichihuil
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 03:15 am: |
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just adding a few personal experiences.
good i have had one good experience w/a cop
he was a young mexican cop at my jr high. he always smiled and let us play w/his toys. ok, so the less deadly ones, such as the self-extending knight stick (i do believe it also had an electric function) and his cuffs. i was never afraid of his big black glock strapped to his thigh cuz i considered him my friend
experience two: not really oone experience. in general, cops in mexico are pretty cool. why? cuz my dad, and the ppl i travel with there know ppl and work with politics.
funny story: my best friends dad has a cop station about 8 blocks from his house. he is also a rally co-pilot (him and his bro, the driver, who owns a body shop, build and race their own cars). so one day he took his jetta and went in front of the cop station and proceeded to peel out, do a u-turn and pump so much smoke in front of their patrol cars that they were most likely coughing *exageration* b4 he sped off. once they caught up w/him (he stopped after a block) he kept asking to speak to a superior, and would not show them his papers. when they finally had the station chief there, w/most of the underlings, he politely handed him his id, which read across the top "Government of the United States of Mexico" and his positon. this prompted the station chief to hand the ID to his next in command, apologize profusely, and leave abruptly, leaving the next-in-command to handle the job. this continued till it got to the lowest underling, who apologized and excused himself after handing back the ID. 
ahhh. power..
anyways
another note.
do you guys know those really thin, but really high (almost triangual) speedbumps that try to tear out the bottom portion of ur car, no matter how slow, or at what angle you pass them? they have a special name in Mexico. they are called sleeping cops.
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Chichihuil
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 03:41 am: |
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so onto (some) of my
bad experiences:
someone mentioned cops in 3rd world countries
im in brazil now and here is aninteresting story:
i was at a "despejo," which is when military cops are sent by hte large estate owners to take ppl off their land. about a month ago, cops went to the same encampment and razed everything. after that, a law was written that they were not allowed to fire their weapons at such encounters. when i go there, there were 2 grey military busses a SWAT team, and a bunch of high ranking generals. first soem explanations. military cops in brazil do the same job as US cops. civil cops in brazil workin the courts and resolve civil disputes (eg. home disputes, etc.) also. the encampment was of members of the MST "Movimiento de os trabahladores rurais Sem Terra" which roughly translates to: movement of landless agrarian workers. there is also a law in the brazilian constitution which prohibits the lack of land usage. lets clear that up. you cannot own farmland and leave it idle in order to raise the price on specific goods. which is exactly what many large land owners do (many of which have political and business friends). anyways. so members of the MST occupy this land, and farm it, and have a government right to do so. htey where getting cleared out this time on the excuse that the shaks that they built were form wood stolen from this guys land.. which is true, but all was "leave-no-trace wood" (srry, im an outdoors nut. means that it wasnt thicker than a persons wrist)
to get to the point
the cops had shot off 5 rounds b4 i arrived (w/ an MST militant friend of mine)
we talke dto the other militant there and he informed us that the cops had all calmed down once the media arrived.. which is usually what happens.
now. for US experiences
2: i was arrested w/my best friend during an anti-war protest in Ausitn TX. the cop.. who was actually a park ranger, and miss-wrote my profile(? whats that thing called? the case doc? anyways, u get the idea). told us both that he was not going to search us. and therefore did not read us our rights. than he made a crack about everyone knowing them anyways, cuz they have them so much on tv. NOT FUNNY. i dont care much for tv and only occasionally watch the Simpsons (great show!) and thats it. so know. i only know about thte "right to remain silent" cuz that the first one said in all movies, and it sticks. so anyways. than he proceded to search us both. not only empty my pockets and take off my jacket, but a nice groping. i dont know about you guys, but id rather be molested by a teacher (who desnt have a glock) than by some guy on a powertrip who jokes about my genitals being a cell phone and that maybe i have drugs hidden in my underwear. my friend was in tear, so we were defeninetly NOT threatening him in any way (esp sicne im of medium build and just above 5" . he still cuffed us (tight, hands behind back) and shoved us into someone elses patrol car. so the guys that took us to prison had no idea why we where there. i can easily hop over my hands, and would have done so, so i did not have to sit on them, anc cause the cuffs to dig in deaper, but i was threatened against doing so, b4 i thought of it. so. once at the joint, the cops there had no idea why we where there, bu thtey proceeded to cut off a bracelet which i had gotten from a special friend 5 yrs b4, cuz i couldnt undo the knot. they did not believe my age (i was 18) they kept telling me to tell the truth, that i was 15, and that it woudl be a LOT better 4 me. i do not own an official form of ID (apart from my passport, which, i dont know about you, but i certainly do NOT carry around.. seeing as american passport go for $400 on the black market), just my school id, which has no date of bird and was kinda washed out.
we waited to be celled for quite soem time. among drug dealers, car theifs and a guy who had beat his wife one time too many one time too hard (i know this cuz they where all happy (and proud *grimace*) of sharing their stories
so after we were celled, alone, in seperate cells.
we waited and waited. not knowing what time it was (all our "personal effects" where in "safe keeping".
they had said we would be out that night.
i got out the next day, at 10:30, and my friend nto till 6:45 at night.
this just b/c (thank my lucky stars!) my little brother was spending the night at a friends house, whose mom happens to be a lawyer. and she called my mom to ask about his bedtime!!
and all of this, just cuz we were walking in the wrong direction at the wrong time.. or something (we were leaving, and were asked to "come back for a second, they only wante dto ask a Q"
so yeah, i guess you can say that i very much dislike cops
can you say trauma? i still think of this when i see cops on the streets. i always think, i shoul,d have run, ignored him. not said anything. SHOULD HAVE. hah. isnt life ironic? and i was trying to be as helpful as possible, telling him all i knew.. f~ck that sht!
even my lawyer told me: smiel at cops, give them ur id, do NOT give them ANY information. guess i was young and naive.. well, we do learn fast.
now, even mall cops, i make sure i know where they are, do not look at them in the eye (or let them know that i am looking) and defeninetly do NOT talk to them.
b4 this occured, when i was about 16 i aske da cop about his car.. you know, teen, curious, his patrol car had an interesting fender. i remember begining to fear cops after that..
anyways
to lighten things up
you guys wanna hear a dirty joke? |
Chichihuil
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 03:42 am: |
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Four white horses fell in the mud! |
Raraf
| | Posted on Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 11:56 am: |
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Charlieboy6649, I actually agree with you. If you do not listen to a cop he has cause to shoot you. But imagine if there was a law allowing you to shoot cops if they didn't listen to you. Weed out those bad ones more efficiently than the process now.
I agree with you as well, Buellny. Cops in Mexico had us wire "bail" to get my Dad out of jail. Ransom more like it. I do like our cops best but that is like saying I prefer eating 1 pound of cat feces to 5 pounds of dog feces.
My opinion. |
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