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The4ork
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 11:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

tuber rider here...

yeah i bought my girlfriend an XB12scg... since its a girls bike and all, and 9's are for limp wrists.

real men ride s1's

just playin, here is the pic. it was a surprise present, she loved it. much better than her 89 nt650gt

from her old hawk:



to her newer bigger bike:




'07 Buell XB12SCG
its a sweet bike, i drove it about 230 miles home from where i bought it and its pretty nice. speedo reads like 10mph too high, but it was also getting 54MPG on the ride home cruising on I5 at about 80mph most of the way home. i dunno what the MPG actual is since the speedo is off.

here is a pic of my bike:


just occurred to me i have more pics of her bike than i do of mine now. i need more pics lol.

i must say however, my tuber feels alot more like a mans bike compared to the XB - and no offense or anything. those of you who have ridden the carbed tube frams probably know exactly what im about to say.

the tube just takes everything nice and meaningful about the xb one step further. it vibrates more between your legs, its got seemingly more grunt at any rpm, it picks the tire up easier, the exhaust smells manlier, its just meaner in every way except maybe engineering lol.

sorry about the 9 comment, but i dont know why anyone would want one unless its a great deal. thats just my opinion, so if i we could please leave the bickering out of this thread that would be nice
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Jesset
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Pics of her on the new XB??? haha just playin...Nice rides : )
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Iman501
Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i must say however, my tuber feels alot more like a mans bike compared to the XB

the tube just takes everything nice and meaningful about the xb one step further. it vibrates more between your legs


i'm a man, and i dont like vibrations between my legs!....my girlfriend does though...just doesnt seem like a very manly statement! : )

you cant pick on 9's and not expect feed back while postingin the XB section haha but i like your girls bike, the orange looks great!

but I am a big fan of the S1's as well!

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Wildman4x4nut
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 01:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice looking XB. I am sure she will be happy with it. You could have gotten her a XB9 and I'll bet she would have liked it just as much.

I don't know how or why you feel the need to talk trash about everyone's bike and then ask that we don't turn this thread into a bickering match. You started it!!
I have had both a XB9 and XB12 and I felt manly riding both bikes. I guess if you have to compair your manlyness to a bike then maybe your compinsating for something? Maybe we should ask your GF?
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The4ork
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

ask her all u want :P

just the 9 seemed really boring to me is all, in fact i was going to get her a 9 but found this for a great deal, plus the scg model was cool because its low for her. i wanted to get her an R but she said it looked to bug eyed lol. i remember thinking that when i first saw them but then it grew on me, i really like the look of the firebolt now. but i fell in love with the lightning. at the time i just coulnt afford one and ended up with the S-1, which im glad now that i did.

besides im just pokin the bear a bit their all cool bikes.

at least i got rid of that jap rice burner :P
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The4ork
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 01:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hey onto some more serious notes i do have a few questions you guys might be able to help me with.

what do you guys recommend for suspension settings for her 130lbs geared up? right now i cranked everything down plus about 1 turn or so to start off with. the PO had everything cranked to max stiffness and after a few miles on the ride home i had to turn it down before my teeth broke going over bumps in the freeway.

and also is there any way to make the speedo more accurate? or could the sensor be dirty or something?

is there any "must replace" or "update" items i should consider looking into?

i just put a set of fresh diablos on it and an oil change. (damn that filter is tiny!)
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Hughlysses
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

what do you guys recommend for suspension settings for her 130lbs geared up?

Follow the settings in the owner's manual; they're pretty much on the money. Setting up the suspension correctly makes a HUGE difference in the way the bike handles.
If you don't have a manual, hopefully someone here with a Cg can help you out with the numbers. You used to be able to access the manuals on-line at buell.com but that was killed a few weeks ago.
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Cataract2
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hm, both my Buells have smaller engines than you tuber. Want to put all that trash talking to the test against the one of my choosing?
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Andymnelson
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll take the 9 motor over the 12 ANY day. Put some serious miles on both, you'll likely agree. I own an XB9S and an XB12X (and an X1). I'll own an S1W some day, but certainly not at the expense of my XBs- they are very different bikes that do their own things well.


quote:

is there any "must replace" or "update" items i should consider looking into?




no, this is an XB...not a tuber : D
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Wildman4x4nut
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you don't have an owners manual I'll dig mine out and give you the suggested setting from it. They are a good starting point.
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The4ork
Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2011 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

dont have an owners manual... was hoping the bike was going to come with one but the guy really didnt have anything but the paperwork and a spare key and key card. that was about it.

cataract2 - not the 1125 :P
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Wildman4x4nut
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 12:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a Firebolt instead of a SCG. I don't know if the settings are the same but one of the guru's will let us know.

Here is the settings for a Firebolt.
For less than 140lbs.
Front
Preload no. of lines--7
Compression*--2
Rebound*--1.625

Rear
Preload Position--1
Compression*--2.5
Rebound*--1.75

*All damping adjuster settings are done by tightening adjuster clockwise until it stops at the maximum setting, then counting the turns counterclockwise to the desired setting.

I hope this helps.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 01:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Oh'7 manual has recommended settings for the S, Scg, and my STT. I can post them up when I get home in the morning.

Love the 650 Hawk GT. FUN, Fun fun bikes.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 05:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can find parts of the manuals that used to be on-line at buell.com at the Internet Archive. Unfortunately, the page with the suspension settings is not one of them.
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Littlebuggles
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2011 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Recommended settings for less than 150lbs 2007 XB12Scg
(all compression and rebound settings are the number of turns out from maximum):

Front Fork

Preload No. of Lines - 6
Compression - 1.75
Rebound - 1.75

Rear Shock

Preload Position - 1
Compression - 3
Rebound - 1.5


For comparison, settings for 150-170 are:

Front Fork
Preload No. of Lines - 5.5
Compression - 1.75
Rebound - 1.5

Rear Shock
Preload Position - 2
Compression - 2.5
Rebound - 1.25
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2011 - 01:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Come on man, you wanna talk trash about smaller bikes... But if it's just the XB9. I know a few on here who could make the XB9 look like it was the faster Buell made. Let's play... lol
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Blk_uly
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 02:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nice bike but...um... I can't believe no one mentioned the chrome mirrors!!!
They must go! LOL
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Deanh8
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 03:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I got very close to the same HP numbers on my full bolt on XB12 vs XB9. 20more tq but HP was within 4hp. (92 vs 96) The loss of 1000 rpm, top speed and faster revving engine wasnt enough to make up for the extra torque on the 12. I went faster at the track with the XB9 engine then the XB12 and was able to hold gears longer.. both same mods (micron, ported tb and manifold, intake, tune, ect)

(Message edited by deanh8 on March 27, 2011)
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 12:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The loss of 1000 rpm, top speed and faster revving engine wasnt enough to make up for the extra torque on the 12. I went faster at the track with the XB9 engine then the XB12 and was able to hold gears longer.



Please clarify. Me confused. You say faster revving (discussed later) didn't make up for more torque of 12, but 9 was better at track?

I've never understood what people mean by "faster revving" as to how it applies to a bike having better performance.

Once it is off the line, a bike that accelerates more quickly will have more HP or to be totally accurate, more HP on average over a wider operating powerband. That's all that matters, absent the effect of the drivetrain gearing my chainsaw engine is WAY faster revving. It wouldn't be worth poo as a large motorcycle engine.

Loss of 1,000 rpm? 7500 - 7100 = 400 rpm.

No successful professional Buell racer that I know has been faster with the XB9 engine than with the XB12. More power, same weight... XB12 engine is faster.
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Eternalbiker
Posted on Sunday, March 27, 2011 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Neighbor has an 07 XB9 and he gives my Ulysses a good run. I only really have him on the top end, out of the hole the 9 is tough to beat! I'll try him again after I get the Erik Buell Racing ECM

I ride my wife's 05 XB9SX The XB9 they are nice bikes!
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Foximus
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2011 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ah HA! Yes. S1 is a mans bike.


Agreeed.
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Luxor
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - 12:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm pleased to see that some men are comfortable giving their girlfriend a better engineered and more capable motorcycle then his own.

Seriously though, as mentioned above, suspension setup is the key to a really well handling XB. A good pipe and ECM can also work wonders.
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Im def. new to this whole xb thing, wth do all those numbers mean? lol i need a manual. i just adjusted mine until it felt right, over the course of a few weeks. i have the xb front forks
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The4ork
Posted on Friday, April 01, 2011 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

oh and those are moto guzzi mirrors. the po was quite proud of them for some reason. leslie likes them because they are shiny
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