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Starter
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 12:31 am: | 
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There is nothing wrong with the Dunlop D208s. Just make sure you buy them as a pair and don't get caught leaving the OEM D207 on the front trying to save a couple of dollars as the profiles and compound will be mismatched. I have no idea why the XB come with the D207 (I am aware they are meant to be some out of the ordinary light carcass) as they are the superseeded by the D208s a few years ago, which is being superseeded now by the D218. They (D207) aren't even available from Dunlop in Aust anymore except OEM. If you want to compare the D207s to another brand and type of tyre you should be looking back at the other companies offerings when the D207 was in it's prime, you'll be looking at stuff like Pirelli Dragons etc which most people would say are pretty ordinary by today's standards as well. I guess what I'm trying to say is don't disregard the D208 as a future tyre choice just cause the OEM D207 wasn't up to scratch with more modern tyres. D218 which are starting to appear on the some shops in Aust are getting good reports as well. My next tyres will be Pilot Sports cause I got a set from some squid who wanted to upgrade for nothing from a mate at a bike shop. |
Kaese
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:16 am: |
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Here is my tire story:
I use my XB9R as a commuter riding 42 miles one way and do not do much weekend twisty riding. The OEM Dunlops: I acquired a 3 inch rivet about 2,000 miles in the rear. Unable to repair it, replaced the rear with a Dunlop 208. Another 200 miles the rear acquired a nail. Not wanting to replace it again, I plugged it and it worked well (with the OEM front) for about another 6,500 miles.
The Pirelli “buy the rear and get the front free” deal came along and I acquired a set of Corsa’s. Another nail in the rear after 1500 miles on the Corsa’s and another plug went in the rear (Never had any problems with a tire plug). I now have 6500 miles on the Corsa’s. The rear is just now showing a flat spot in the center and the front is showing some slight cupping. I hate cupping on the front tire because the tire should get much more mileage. The rear I understand should wear faster because of the shifting and torque acceleration, but the front cupping is still a mystery to me. I have been using 30/32 psi.
I was also able to acquire a set of Pirelli Diablo’s with the same “buy the rear and get the front free”. They are waiting in the wings to throw on when I get tired increasing ill-handling of the Corsa’s. Later I should be able to compare the two tire compounds on the Pirelli’s.
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Blake
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:57 am: |
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30/32 psi?! Way too low. Read your owner's manual! |
Barkandbite
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 02:17 am: |
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Holy crap ... 30/32! Are you sure you're picking up nails/rivets or just wearing through the tire with the rim/valvestem! That's amazing to me. I couldn't turn a corner when my dealer let me leave the 'ship with tires that low in pressure.
On another thread ("tire preassures" it was noted that "...Amazing what affect pressure can have,supercorsas like 30/30 ONLY!,not higher like stockers etc."
36/38 is the suggest tire pressure for stocker 207's, but perhaps your tires differ? I'm surprised you don't slide all over the place.
Which freeways do you ride on? Also, what are your suspension settings?
CHris
edited by Barkandbite on June 10, 2004 |
Henrik
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 08:43 am: |
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I usually start a track day with 30/30 psi in the tires - it'll vary a bit if the temperatures are at the extremes. But that's for optimal traction and no regard for wear. For the street, those numbers would be too low - IMHO
Henrik |
Xb9er
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 01:52 pm: |
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30/32 is low for the street. That can't be good for the tire. How fast do you ride on your commute? How does the bike respond during an evasive maneuver? At that pressure, it's no wonder your "rear is just now showing a flat spot in the center" after 6500 miles. I'm guessing the sidewall is getting stressed too much but it seems to be holding up well for you in spite of that. Tough tire.
You are using the wrong tire(s) for your riding style. You could probably get twice as many miles (at correct tire pressures) if you switched from sport tires to sport touring tires like the Metzeler Z4.
Mike. |
Doitindark
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 04:30 pm: |
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I have about 6000 miles on my bolt and its time for some new tires. To me it looks like M-1's or Diablos would be the best choice, from what I have read. Heres the question, I'm really tight for cash and was thinking if just replacing the rear tire would be ok? Right now I have the stock tires on her. |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 05:30 pm: |
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MY DIABLOS ARE THE SH*T!!! I got caught in a ridiculous thunder storm on my way back from Miami this morning. I was doing 90...flying around all the cars. The grip awesome in the rain. I think I'm gonna try the M1's next just to compare. In my opinion, the Diablos are a great choice. I have about 4000 miles on mine...a lot of highway miles. I think I'll get another 1000 miles out of 'em before I need new ones. I could actually get away with just changing the rear. The front is in really good shape. |
Kaudette
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 05:36 pm: |
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Doitindark - spend the extra $100 and put the full set on - if that means waiting an extra week or so more than worth it. |
Jasonxb12s
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 05:40 pm: |
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I bought the Diablos Corsas, Can anyone give me some recommendations on pressure before I install them? Or just go by the book? |
Xb9er
| | Posted on Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 11:21 pm: |
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Take it from me, I didn't have time to change the stock front at the time I replaced the stock rear with a Sportec M-1. I rode about 200 or 300 miles in twisties and it sucked. The combination was unstable because the front end just shimmied a little too much. Entering turns was a little scary because the front sometimes didn't grip right for me. But that's just me.
I have no doubt that your front Dunlop is probably cupped all to hell. Keeping it on may be unsafe in some situations. Just spend the money and replace it. It's not that tough to scrape up 100 bucks.
Mike. |
Kaese
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 12:39 am: |
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Ok, it was late and my real tire pressure is 32/34. The Corsa's are a softer compound and I was convinced to run them that low. I have never gotten this much mileage out of a set of tires. I am very happy with them. I agree with Daveinm
about the rain. Really can't even tell much difference in grip between the wet and dry. |
Daveinm
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 09:53 am: |
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I bet the Diablo Corsa's are even better than the Diablo's in the rain. Correct me if I'm wrong. |
Ronwilson
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 11:19 am: |
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Just put Diabolos on my XB9S and they are great. Dave S. was right when he said they were a good choice and I would really like them. And good in the rain. The guys in the shop (riding Suzuki GSXR's) were so impressed they went out and bought them also.... and they see alot of tires. |
Easyflier
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 01:19 pm: |
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Daveinm, the Corsas are more road/track oriented than the standard Diablos and don't rate as well in the rain.
(per the Pirelli website)
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Freyke
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 01:38 pm: |
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I'm getting what I consider pretty poor mileage from the stock rubber... I'm on my third rear and getting around 2800-3200(at best) and around 6000 out of the front... I'm going to go with the Michelin Pilot Road... I expect to realize about twice the mileage...
kk//kef
edited by freyke on June 11, 2004 |
Easyflier
| | Posted on Friday, June 11, 2004 - 02:27 pm: |
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My Diablo rear is due for a change too. Only getting about 8,000 miles out of it, guess I drive it way too easy.  |
Naughtynurse
| | Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:05 pm: |
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BadS1 is getting a pair of Metzlers for Father's Day!!!!! |
Glitch
| | Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:33 pm: |
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I bought some Metzlers on Saturday.
The change in cornering is unreal.
I spent about 200 miles in the North Georgia Mountains on Sunday. Just played around taking it easy. There's a game I play, find a nice twistie road and do about 50 and keep as close to 50 without using brakes only engine braking. Smooth is the key. The tires, even on the wettish to wet roads the confidence level was high. Good tires. |
Thepup
| | Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:57 pm: |
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I just bought a set of continental road attacks Friday.I have a few hundred miles on them ,wet and dry.It's Fl so no real twisty roads but I like the feel of them.Cycleworld has an article about them this month.if you are looking for a good tire for everyday use this might be a good one |
