| Author | Message | ||
     Buellblastrider |
Ok my girl rides a GSXR 1000 and is blue and white like every other GSXR. She had a 750 similar to the 1000 and I have always had the dream to put hero blue wheels on the bike. I love small little touches and think getting away from the 3 spoke wheel would be awesome. Its time for tires on both her bike and my Firebolt so I had to take a pic. I'd love to do this and would be willing to buy the parts necessary when I can to make it happen.   opinions suggestions. I know I'd have to do a chain drive on the rear wheel and either change forks or atleast sliders to be able to run the ztl brakes but I'd do it. | ||
| Tepiddeath |
Technically, changing the sliders won't do a darn thing for mounting the brake caliper as the forks are inverted, and the slider is clamped in the triple tree. You will have to make sure the axlesare going to fit in the XB wheels, and you will have to come up with a way to mount the front brake caliper. With our wheels, the majority of structural integrity comes from that perimeter rotor on the front, so elimination is not an option. | ||
| Buellblastrider |
sorry I know I said slider what I meant is the tube where the caliper mount is pressed on. Im not against changing the entire forks out if I can do so but obviously more variables come into that like stem diameter length trees etc. Im not against doing custom stuff. At this point I am just getting opinions since its a what if and just another project I really dont need | ||
| Bads1 |
Won't work at all. The GSXR has a cush drive system in the rear wheel hub to start with. | ||
| Buellblastrider |
can easily convert to chain drive on the xb which would eliminate the cush drive. V rods have the cush drive set up and there is xb wheels on them all day long. I appreciate the input though. | ||
| Dancing_dogs |
It can be done....I put XB wheels on my vrod 2 years ago and eliminated 24 lbs in the process. Love the perimeter brake too....Awesome mod! | ||
| Ducbsa |
New GF with an XB? | ||
| Buellblastrider |
Lol nah I'm pretty fond of this one. I traded in a girlfriend with a cbr to get this one. | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
Ex-girlfriend with a cbr, current gf with a gixxer 1000. Man, I need to move to Tenn! I can't find a WI girl that isn't fat and wants a HD! | ||
| Ericz |
The front rotor is not at all a structural member for the front wheel. You may be able to swap front forks and may have to change or modify the triples to do so but you would end up with the XB wheel and brake setup in the front. The rear might be possible by comparing the offsets for both the rotor and sprocket with the stock GSXR wheel. You would also have to make either a new axle or axle spacers to adapt your GSXR axle to the XB wheel bearings OR install different bearings in the XB wheel that fit the GSXR axle. TO sum it up, it CAN be done, but with how much work? | ||
| Buellblastrider |
Thanks for the input ericz. If I have the funds one winter I hope to do it. | ||
| Blake |
Dana has a very good point. Removing cush drive could damage the drivetrain. | ||
| Bads1 |
No it can't. The 1125r has its cush drive on the drive sprocket on the engine. Now your asking a inline 4 to go without. You will be going through wheel's,sprockets and chains like cotton candy. This is not a less then 95HP Twin. This is a 150 hp inline 4. These bike need and have to have the cush drive system intact. | ||
| Bads1 |
A cush drive is a part of a motorcycle or scooter drive-train that is designed to reduce stress from engine torque damaging other components during gear or throttle changes. A common design used by almost all street motorcycles, it has three major pieces: the wheel, the sprocket assembly, and the rubber damper. The wheel and the sprocket assembly fit together with five sections much like two hands woven together. In between the contact of the two assembly are rubber blocks. This makes it so the wheel and the sprocket have a dampening layer between them, and the rubber blocks reduce wear and fatigue of the metal assemblies. Another popular system incorporates metallic compression type coil springs placed between the input and output shafts of the cush drive assembly. When the rubber damper becomes old and hardens, or wears out, or the springs become stressed or weak the changes in load on the drive chain instigated by changes in throttle position or changing gear can cause small inconsistencies with power delivery to the wheel. Loads particularly on the drive chain can be massively increased in these conditions, increasing the risk of breakage or of contact with the swinging arm resulting in damage. Perhaps more pointedly the sudden transfer of force to the rear tyre can cause momentary loss of traction (lock or spin) resulting in small changes of direction or at worst total loss of control. | ||
| Blake |
and/or death. | ||
| Delta_one |
There are a few companies that make Cush drive sprockets/sprocket mounts your sprocket ends up between two carrier plates with rubber elastomer or neoprene acting as a damper. Carrier solid mounted to the wheel, sprocket Cush mounted to the carrier, one more plate on the outside going to the wheel and carrier for sprocket stability. Not sure what the lifespan is on a pert like that but I have seen it on some customs and streetfighters | ||
| Dinuns1 |
The cush drive is not needed at all , no track bike has it , its a horespower loss . Not to mention Hd has it on the new baggers and sell a kit to eliminate it and a kit to add it to older models . Now back to the original poster a valid , but possibly exspensive way to do this is use two rear wheels , wheels are widened on a regular basis for racing, custom app... So take a rear wheel send it to Kosman ,or who ever cut 2'' bringing it back to 3.5'' Weld up the rotor and pulley bolts ,reweld to fit the gixxer roters and bam , makeing custom spacers is the easy part you can prob find bearings that have the right size id and od to use your axles , not as cheap as a simple wheel swap but definitely not as much as a whole front end ,depending on what you can do yourself | ||
| Buellblastrider |
thanks for all the input. I guess it would help to share I am a certified Harley Buell tech and when I get done with 04 Buell I should have a spare front end lying around. | ||
| Bads1 |
Doesn't matter who's a tech here. Your atech... great. My bikes have never seen a tech. Do my own work.... good for me. As far as the bike not needing a cush drive system. Ummm yeah it does. I just was on the phone with well Sean Storment. I had a few questions regarding my own bike. Well anyways,since I had him on the line I figured I'd ask about what your thinking of doing. He said its true they run no cush drive on there bikes. But!!!! he said on the street he wouldn't be without. He said they change out sprockets and chains every race or every weekend rather. Some he said don't but they do get damaged faster. He asked why would some one want to do premature wear on those items on a street bike?? So you know who he is?? I got to meet him 2 weeks ago and is a great guy. Hes the Crew Chief for Jake Zemke Air Jordan National Guard. Now theres a guy that doesn't know what hes talking about. Your girlfriend has a awesome bike. Keep its reliability there. My 2 cents | ||
| Bads1 |
BTW this is his bike. I have no idea how many Superbike race parts are on this thing but I can see many when I seen it.  | ||
| Buellblastrider |
I appreciate all info from any side and I brought the topic here because I've been a member for years. We watch each others back here. I see where your coming from and agree with you because we ride and don't want to decrease reliability so I may have to check into the cush drive kit someone mentioned above. Bads1 I don't know that you meant to sound rude in that one message but just to clerify I only bring up being a tech is so people don't think I'm some guy with a 50 piece craftsmen set that was received for christmas and think I'm some genious only to find Ill mess up everything I touch. | ||
| Bads1 |
I didn't mean to sound rude. I needed to talk to Sean about a exhaust mod that I'm doing and needed his input. I figured his opinion would be better then anyones. | ||
| Buellblastrider |
Yeah thanks again its very much appreciated from all sides. I have the wheels off both bikes and may check into somethings while I'm out and get back you guys. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
can't ya just powder coat the Gixxer wheels? | ||
| Buellblastrider |
Yes we plan on doing that as well. We powdercoated the wheels on her 750. We re not just doing it for the color I want the bike to be different with different spoke pattern better brakes lighter wheels etc. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
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| Buellblastrider |
Oh and another reason we want to more than just coat them is because 600 can come with. Blue wheels from suzuki so that's not all that different. | ||
| Buellblastrider |
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| Xbgeorge |
There was a guy that put Buell wheels on a SV not long ago. I don't know if the pics were on this board or buelletinboard. | ||
| F22raptor |
Letting the caliper hang by the hose,Yikes!!!  | ||
| Buellblastrider |
Just for the pic oppurtunity | ||
| Iman501 |
i to saw that sv with xb wheels, pretty sure it was on here | ||
| Firemanjim |
Saw several teams at Laguna last year that had added dual discs by usinf Gix lower fork legs on their XB's. Seems that the Showa forks were the same so lower legs swapped. |
