| Author | Message | ||
     420at145mph |
im about to change my oil n tranny fluid before takin a trip to canada ive decided on either mobil1 vtwin or amisol which 1 is better n what weight should i use | ||
| Curtyd |
I just went with the Mobil 1 75-90 Gear Oil. The argument that Mobil 1 is readily available is what I went with. Granted, if you have to add tranny oil, you're probably already on a tow vehicle to the local HD/Buell Dealer. Amsoil has a big ad push on the web, but that only makes me a bit suspicious. | ||
| 420at145mph |
i dont really HAVE to add it im about 1100 miles overdue for my 2500 service n about to ride 150 more miles to a dealer just figure ill change them myself n knock about n hour off the bill | ||
| Curtyd |
That's what I did. I took the 250 dollar first 2500 service down to about 130 bucks by doing my own fluids. I meant if you're on the road and needing to add tranny oil you are already in a lot of trouble. Sears carries a screwdriver with the star end and I fit a wrench on the handle to add a little torque when taking off and on primary case window screws, careful though... If you went 3700 miles on your stock oil, you need to get it out. Careful with the lowers there are small plastic washers try not to lose them, it'll keep you from overtightening the screws when you reinstall. | ||
| 420at145mph |
i went about 2600 on this oil it got changed at the 1000 mile service I THINK whats the part# for the oil FILTER? ha like the local dealer will have it what section in the service manual tells u how to change the tranny fluid? | ||
| Curtyd |
It's all in the maintenance section. Bring bike up to level, I use a wooden block under the side stand. Remove larger lower window, if you don't level the bike first or keep it level until you re-install window oil spills out the bottom of window. Remove drain plug. Manual shows where oil fill should reach the bottom of the visible plate. I find one quart is the right amount, others say a couple of onces less. Close window with screws and torque about a quarter of a turn, I need the wrench on the screwdriver handle for that. | ||
| Curtyd |
Also when you remove the window, the clutch inspection cover, there is a spring that just slots into the clutch adjustment screw. Nothing holds it in other than that inspection cover. Don't let it drop out into the tranny. Remove it and when you are ready to put the inspection plate/cover back in, put it back. | ||
| 2k4xb12 |
Also, don't forget to drop by the dealer and pick up several of the cover gaskets. They're only about $1.50 each. You're supposed to replace it each time the cover comes off... Steve. | ||
| Curtyd |
I have changed oil 3 times now and I am still using the same gaskets, just snug them down nice and easy. No leaks after they warm up the 1st time. They are cheap to replace but sometimes you'll do more damage to the cover scraping off the old ones. | ||
| 420at145mph |
done REALLY dont think my tranny fluid should have looked like caramel NO FRIGGIN IDEA how water got in there musta been from keepin it inside all winter cant change the oil with no filter =( daveS overnight me one how much would that be? think i put a little too much in tho cuz ive NEVER missed 3rd or 4th before but was just kinda wingin it with a atv jack so didnt have only the rear up edited by 420at145mph on May 23, 2004 | ||
| Xb9er |
The primary/trans fluid capacity is 1 quart. But what you have to realize is that you can't get all of the old fluid out even if the engine motor is hot. So there will be a couple ounces left. So follow the (not so clear) directions in the manual for checking the level. Keep track of the actual number of ounces you used and next time just add that amount. Mine takes something around 28-29 ounces (I marked it on a bottle of 75W-90 that I for measuring when I change fluid). From personal experience, a full quart at a change makes it real difficult to find neutral and shifting is not so smooth. YMMV. Mike. | ||
| 420at145mph |
meh finding neutral seems EASIER only missed 3rd n 4th on the test run after didnt miss anything today still dont know how water got in there makes me worry about spending 9dollars a quart just to have it do it again that old fluid looked NASTY all like caramel n •••• | ||
| Dj_rider |
so fellas, whats the best oil 2 run in the xb12r's/// both tranny and engine oils...i get mine serviced 2 morrow for the 1000 mile service  thanks again  | ||
| 420at145mph |
i used valvoline full synthetic would have preferrd mobil 1 or royal purple but the napa i can get a discount at dint have em | ||
| Dj_rider |
what gear weights for mobile 1? thanks 420 | ||
| Buggie |
when are you coming up north so I can warn the border  | ||
| 420at145mph |
heh like ima tell u no i was gonna come up tommorow but the guy im gonna ride with couldnt get time off plus i havent changed my oil yet NO FILTER so ima wait till the weathers nice again change my oil n get in touch with the border to find out exactly what ill need to cross then get in touch with the dealer n find out when he can get me in its lookin like next week or the week after that THINK its was 75/90 not sure n dont feel like gettin wet to find out edited by 420at145mph on May 24, 2004 | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
Don't over-tighten those bolts going into the case either...I had to give myself a crash course in Helicoils the same day I changed my tranny fluid because I'm so friggin' strong at the arm. Nevertheless, using Mobil1 75-90 now and did overfill by about 2oz first try...You will know if it's over filled because you can't find neutral while at a stop light. | ||
| Buggie |
call 1-204-633-BIKE and you'll get Lonestar HD\Buell as far as the border licence birth certicate or even better a passport just tell them your going for a tour of winnipeg take hwy75 over the border until you hit the perimiter hwy then head west and the hwy loops around the city take the route 90 exit and take that until you see the giant HD logo on the roof and your there | ||
| Jasonxb12s |
Tell 'em you want asylum and are from Cuba...works for a white guy from NC everytime I try. | ||
| 420at145mph |
lol cuba my wife said someone in her shop tryed crossing last week n they turned his monkey ••• around cuz he didnt HAVE his birth certificate the border patrol guys in town didnt have a clue but gave me a number to call n ask edited by 420at145mph on May 24, 2004 | ||
| Kaudette |
the XB oil filter is the same as a Toyota Corolla (believe it or not) so this makes it a bit easier to find at the parts shop and a lot cheaper - I'll look for the exact part No. and corolla model year. | ||
| 420at145mph |
LOL YOUR SHITTIN ME!? | ||
| Dehorridge |
I understand a champion C138 fits. D | ||
| Prof_stack |
Walmart ST4967 is the same factory-made oil filter. $1.97 last time I checked. Same AA stamp on the top. Just peel off the sticker and your local HD/Buell tech will be unable to tell any difference. There isn't any. Yeah, works in the Corolla's too. | ||
| Brucelee |
Mobil One 75-90 is the real deal. | ||
| Trevorxb9s |
2 questions 1. What engine oil are you guys running? Mobil? I'm in Phoenix and am considering changing to synthetics. (I know this has been discussed a bunch of times, sorry for asking again.) 2. Can changing the trany and motor oil be done without a stand? | ||
| 420at145mph |
valvoline 20/50 full synthetic motor oil valvoline 75/90 gear oil in trans YOU DAMN TIGHTWAD!? | ||
| Reepicheep |
Mobil 1 15w50 full synthetic is great and cheap. Mobil 1 VTwin (20w50) full synthetic is great. Amsoil full synthetic is great, but not magic and a little disengeneous in their marketing. Royal Purple full synthetic is great. Harley Screamin Eagle full synthetic is great. Any full synthetic is better then any non full synthetic. Non full synthetics, if changed regularly and put in a properly tuned bike, are just barely "good enough". There. Hopefully that won't stir up any flame wars. You can get a long steel rod (rebar) and put it through the hollow back axle, and put it on a pair of jack stands, and the bike will stay upright. If you feel lucky, you can put a 2x4 under the sidestand, and get the bike almost straight upright, at the risk of a tipover. You can use tie downs (and maybe a comealong... a cheap hand operated winch type thingy) and suspend the bike straight upright from a stepladder, or from your garage rafters. I've done all of the above (except the tipover bit, I only do that loading trailers) | ||
| M1combat |
I like the bar through the axle idea. It would work for the front too. I have hung mine from a support beam on a friends porch. I also set it on two jack-stands under the rearsets with a couple socks in between. After getting it on there I used a strap around both jack stands to make sure neither of them moved. I like the bar idea, but of course it wouldn't work to remove a tire... I would think that while changing oil you would want to lift the front in this manner so as to be able to drain more primary oil out. |
