| Author | Message | ||
     Jaylightnn08 |
Woke up had a dead battery, went to harley davidson because the battery is still under warranty. Said that the battery when tested said "charge, then test again" So they told me no worries, should be ready first thing monday morning...... hahahaha its friggin saturday !!!!! oh well, its my fault i dont have a battery charger. They just caught me off guard, i know sometimes these batterys need a slow charge, but more than 48 hours??? whatever Justun/ | ||
| Atomicpunk |
if you charge @ 3 amps, the battery should be full in 6-8 hours. That being said, the best way to charge a motorcycle battery is with a low amp trickle charger like a battery tender but sometimes that will take more than 24 hours. | ||
| Mikellyjo |
When I took the wife's xb12r in for what I thought was charging issues the tech said that Harleys don't charge a battery, they maintain what ever state they are that. Meaning if you need to jump your bike to get it started it will run all day long but be dead the next time you try it. His recommendation was if that ever happens to get it home and put it on a charger. Does the whole maintain but not charge thing make sense for our bikes?   My apologies for the ever so subtle thread jack. | ||
| Midknyte |
...the tech said that Harleys don't charge a battery, they maintain what ever state they are that... Well, yeah, if all yer doin is riding to the next bar. Takes about a half hour to an hour of ride charging to recover. But yes, a trickle tender/charger is your friend. | ||
| Nillaice |
i've also hear that a guy was told that some plastics hadn't arrived yet because they were 'held up in paint' your bike (if everything is working as it should) will re-charge your battery, but it may take upwards of a half hour or riding/idling (depends on how drained it is) WHY DID YOUR BATTERY DIE OVERNIGHT ANYWAYS? did you leave your parking lights on all night? or perhaps an added accessory? you said your bike is still under warranty, so it's prolly not just cuz the batt is old. they can last like 5 years or possibly longer. mine went ca-put at 3, and had never seen a battery tender | ||
| Jaylightnn08 |
oh yea, the little parking lite overturn got me, it was definetly my fault. haha | ||
| Gunut75 |
Held up in paint huh? Sounds like someone talkin' out thier blowhole..........  | ||
| Sifo |
you said your bike is still under warranty, so it's prolly not just cuz the batt is old. My battery went bad about a month after I got the bike. I took a peak and the date it went into service was prior to the build date of my bike. Damn dealer swapped a used battery into a new bike!  | ||
| Nillaice |
how long prior to the build date? cuz a batery is gonna spend some time on a shelf/in transit to the factory before it gets strapped in. | ||
| Sslowmo |
My battery lasted four years and about 35,000 (s)miles. No tender was ever used. | ||
| Delta_one |
some dealers (even my local sears auto center) will put an "in service" date on the battery to tell when it was taken off the self and installed on a vehicle. maybe that's what he is referring to
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| Ft_bstrd |
It could be that the battery would not be fully charged before closing time on Saturday and that their store would not have service folks in on Sunday. The first day that the battery would be done AND available would be Monday morning. I don't think there is anything nefarious going on. We'd probably tell you the same thing. | ||
| Nightripper |
most batteries don't need a charge when they come off the shelf or are just activated. Pouring in the acid activates the battery and then it already has a charge to it. If there is nothing wrong with your bikes charging system, then the fault is usually the battery. I know harley and buell factory batteries are shit, buy either a yuasa or a interstate battery and your problems usually go away. If a bikes charging system is working properly it should have enough power to fully charge a battery with in an hour of riding. The problem with buells and harleys is that if you are going thru batteries in warm weather, that the problem usually lies in the charging system or a damaged stator or magnets. | ||
| Midknyte |
Pouring in the acid activates the battery and then it already has a charge to it. A sealed battery however, as are ours, do need to be full charged before use. Bring it home and do it yourself so you can A) know that it's been charged (you'll be doing it), and B) save the boutique labor cost for "installation" | ||
| Nightripper |
some sealed batterys are not really sealed , the shop pours in the acid and it then turns into a jell. Then cover snaps in place and is permanently sealed. The term sealed battery usually mean that once it is sealed you can't service it, if it needs filling. Once a battery is filled with acid sealed or refillable it has a shelf life to it. | ||
| Fast1075 |
The thought that a new battery does not need to be charged is a myth...all new batteries need to be fully charged before they are put to use....especially lead/acid batteries. | ||
| Nightripper |
usually when a battery is filled with acid it activates the the battery to almost a full charge. The charge is the electrical action of the acid coming in contact with a lead plates + and - This is the same concept of when you use a potato to power a small led clock in science clash. The charge comes from the chemical reaction, you don't charge up the potatos. In real life a battery can be drained of its charge and recharged, as long as the battery has recieved no damage to it for various reasons. Heres a what happened with my 1200 sportster this spring, I bought a new yuasa battery in early spring 35-40 degrees and poured acid in battery and sealed it. Put into bike and it read 13 volts, horn worked great, light fines, when you hit the starter it just clicked. Because of the low temp, and 50 weight oil it needed a full charge by charger. Do this same procedure in 70 degree weather and the bike would start with out putting the battery on a charger. When I was a teen ager I went thru some of my fathers old service manual for old fords and chevys and even old harley. In many of these manuals you will find sections on servicing or rebuilding a cars battery. Basically a battery never really gets damaged unless it is over heated, explodes or is shorted out. What causes battery to fail is that the plates become shorted out or recieve build up of deposits between the plates that short out the plates between the cells. When a cell fails you usually will loose about 2 volts per damaged cells. In the old manuals it showed you how to take the top of the old battery off that is sealed by tar. You remove the old plates as an assembly, scrap off the residue or build up and then reseal the top cover and put in new acid and you have a brand new battery. I seen exactly what these old manuals stated as I cracked open and took apart alot of batteries as a kid to get the lead for making sinkers and casting bullets. Try doing that now with out having the EPA knocking at your door. | ||
| No_rice |
i was going to ask about what time of day you brought the thing in and when they close. if it was in the afternoon on saturday id be telling you monday too... unless you wanted me to toast the battery by sticking it on jump start mode and forcing a charge into it... we close at 5 on satuyrday and dont open again till 9 monday, so thats pretty much what ya get. (Message edited by no_rice on June 07, 2010) | ||
| Nightripper |
Heres a couple links on rebuilding or reconditioning batteries http://www.ehow.com/how_5244691_rebuild-car-batter y.html http://www.chinadepot.com/batripod.html | ||
| Sifo |
how long prior to the build date? cuz a batery is gonna spend some time on a shelf/in transit to the factory before it gets strapped in. It was close to 2 years. The label had a month and year that gets poked out when it is installed. | ||
| Phelan |
Any battery that I ever had to pour acid into had to sit for 24 hours, then be fully charged, per instructions. | ||
| B00stzx3 |
What about race batteries? |
