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Lindy
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 12:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hello everyone, I purchased a new 2009 XB12ss a week after the announced shutdown of Buell. I was told how to check oil by the salesperson.. engine cold, on side stand, dip stick screwed in all the way. Checked it cold multiple times, and it was always at the full mark. I never added oil, this is the way it was filled from the dealer-tech. It was then stored for winter at 500 miles. Read the owners manual over winter and learned how to check it correctly when hot. After the first ride of the year, I go to check it hot, and it pukes oil onto the garage floor. I drained the extra oil out. Any potential damage from this volume of extra oil? What would you say to dealer? It is going in for first oil change in two weeks.
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 12:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Potential damage is that you were burning a lot of oil when it was blowing out through the crankcase breather and up into the airbox, might have fouled the plugs. Put a new air filter in, make sure you have the correct oil level, and ride the sucker.
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Akbuell
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Think about what you said in your post. The dealership (includes salesperson and the tech who set up the bike) basically have no clue about Buells. When it is time for the oil and filter change, I would say "I need 3 qts of oil, an oil filter, and a factory service manual." After paying for those items, I would walk out the door and do the service myself. That way you know it was done correctly, and you don't have to worry about the chin fairing fasteners falling out, getting cross threaded, yadda, yadda.
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Greg_e
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was a new bike, so it would have had to have the dealer touch it, and will have to have the dealer touch it again to maintain the warranty with the 1000 mile service.
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Tmall
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dealers never maintained my bike. I've always done it myself. And they've honored every warranty issue I've had. They've even loaned me tools to change my K&N and tail light bulb in their lot..
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Saratoga
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 03:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you checked the oil on an 09 and it was full cold, it was definitely overfull.

For some reason, a lot of them (mine included) drain back into the engine when you shut them down. The dipstick shows nothing on mine cold, about 1/2 full running hot and about 3/4 way up the crosshatched area if I check it the instant I shut it off.
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Percyco
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 06:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My brand new 09 xb12ss had 3 quarts of oil in the swing arm from the dealer. Puked out just like yours.....And since when does the dealer have to do the 1000 mile service to maintain the warranty ? I'll do mine myself !
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Richardbiker
Posted on Friday, April 02, 2010 - 08:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

,The owner's manual states that a 1,000 mile service is required to maintain the warranty. Buell recommends that this service be done by a dealer. It is not required if one reads this correctly. Keep receipts for any oil, gasket, filter purchases. I had a similar experience as Percyco; we relayed this info to each other.
The oil check on 08 and later bikes is very fickle. Checking it cold will often show no oil on dipstick. I agree with Saratoga and Akbuell.
I just performed the 1,000 mile service on my 09 XT. Changed the oil, primary fluid, checked primary drive chain, air filter; adjusted clutch free play; checked brake pads, tire pressure, and brake fluid levels. Basically go down the list in the service manual, keep receipts, check everything over. Dealer's posted rate for 1K service - $309; my cost <$50. Same peace of mind. If you're not mechanically inclined then you should have someone else do this ie: the dealer or a trusted friend/mechanic.
There should be no damage from the overfill other than potential fouled plugs and/or airfilter (as Greg_e suggested).
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Akbuell
Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2010 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks much, Richardb. You did a much better job of relaying info than I did.

Ride safe, Dave
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