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Swamp2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 07:22 pm: |
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Ok, so I bought an '09 XB12Ss a few states away. Build date was May '09. Is there anything I should make sure the dealer takes care of before picking it up in a couple weeks? Any relevant recalls, or ECM updates, or ??? I have a local Buell dealer so I can deal with it later if there are any issues - but would like to make sure it's up to date before leaving with it. Thanks! |
Lancruza
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 07:54 pm: |
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Be sure the brake recall has been done. |
Lancruza
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 07:55 pm: |
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I should have said "brake line recall" |
Roysbuell
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 08:33 pm: |
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My XB also has a May 09 build date and front brake line was routed correctly. |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 08:54 pm: |
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Legally the recall has to be done before it leaves the dealer. Although I know someone that bought an 08 1125R a few months ago that didn't have the brake line recall done. |
Swamp2
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 09:20 pm: |
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Probably a dumb question but there's been a lot of discussion on the 1125 forum about the various "flash" upgrades and versions for the ECM. I haven't seen similar traffic over here in XB land. I gather there's not an analogous situation - is it a different design/architecture of the ECM? Or is it just more stable, and there haven't been a lot of revisions needed? |
Froggy
| Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 10:36 pm: |
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The ECM is the exact same on both the 08+ XB and 1125. Difference is, the fueling was better from the start on the XB, being that the motor has been around for a while. Early 08 models did have some quirks that were resolved in later firmwares. You can have them check for updates if you desire, but it isn't necessary. |
Grianp
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 07:30 am: |
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how can one tell if the brake line recall mentioned above has been done? |
Rageonthedl
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 09:18 am: |
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the line will be ran on the outside of the fork leg vs. inside. |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 01:15 pm: |
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You need to have the VIN checked. Your brake line can be on the outside without the entire recall being performed. |
Grianp
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 02:37 pm: |
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@ Froggy – how do you have your VIN checked? will the HD online profile give you any information, or do you have to check with the dealer. Is there a place I can find out more info regarding this recall or any other possible recalls that might be relevant to my bike? |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 02:52 pm: |
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Your best bet is the have someone on here that works at a Buell dealer check. You can punch it in on harley-davidson.com but I have read of it not being accurate. |
Vospertw
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 12:49 am: |
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He shouldn't be affected with an Ss, right? Unless there another recall besides this one: Recall ID #16824 - SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Recall Date APR 02, 2009 Motorcycle Affected 2009 BUELL XB12R Summary BUELL DISTRIBUTION COMPANY IS RECALLING 3,316 MY 2008 1125R, MY 2009 XB12R AND XB12SCG MOTORCYCLES. THE SUBJECT MOTORCYCLES HAVE A FRONT BRAKE LINE WHICH MAY CONTACT THE FRONT TIRE. THE CONDITION COULD CAUSE A HOLE TO DEVELOP IN THE FRONT BRAKE LINE, ALLOWING BRAKE FLUID TO LEAK. Consequence THIS CONDITION MIGHT CAUSE AN INEFFECTIVE FRONT BRAKE, LEADING TO A POSSIBLE CRASH AND POTENTIAL INJURY OR DEATH OF THE RIDER. Remedy DEALERS WILL RE-ROUTE THE FRONT BRAKE LINE. IF DAMAGE TO THE BRAKE LINE HAS OCCURRED, THE BRAKE LINE WILL BE REPLACED FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON OR BEFORE APRIL 20, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BUELL DISTRIBUTION COMPANY AT 1-414-343-8400. Potential Motorcycles Affected 3316 Notes HARLEY-DAVIDSON MOTOR COMPANY 0838 (Message edited by vospertw on January 22, 2010) |
Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 06:20 am: |
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Just be aware that the dealer most likely has not looked at the bike at all. Therefore, before riding it, be sure to check the following: 1. Tire pressures: 36 front 38 rear 2. Oil level: Dip Stick in in the swing arm. Oil level should be between the marks. 3. Set up the suspension for your weight according to the owners manual, setting the preload, and compression and rebound settings on the front fork and rear shock. This is very important. 4. It is not unusual for the front spark plug on demo bikes to get fouled as the bike is started, rev'd a few times, and then shut off quickly in the showroom. I have bought two new Buells, and in spite of waiting for hours at the dealers, Atlantic County HD, (no longer a Buell dealer), none of the above were properly set, although they said they were. SOP in Harley land. |
Froggy
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 07:37 am: |
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quote:Make: BUELL Model: XB12SS Model Year: 2009 Manufacturer: BUELL MOTORCYCLE CO. Mfr's Report Date: SEP 02, 2009 NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number: 09V347000 NHTSA Action Number: N/A Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC Potential Number of Units Affected: 405 Summary: BUELL IS RECALLING MODEL YEAR 2009 XB12SS MOTORCYCLES. THE FRONT BRAKE LINE MAY CONTACT THE FRONT TIRE. THIS CONTACT COULD CAUSE A HOLE TO DEVELOP IN THE FRONT BRAKE LINE, ALLOWING BRAKE FLUID TO LEAK. Consequence: THIS CONDITION MIGHT CAUSE AN INEFFECTIVE FRONT BRAKE AND LEAD TO A CRASH. Remedy: DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE FRONT BRAKE LINE AND IF UNDAMAGED, INSTALL A GUIDE ON THE LINE. IF THE LINE IS DAMAGED, IT WILL BE REPLACED AND RE-ROUTED. EITHER REPAIR WILL BE PERFORMED FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 21, 2009. OWNERS MAY CONTACT BUELL DISTRIBUTION COMPANY AT 1-414-343-8400. Notes: BUELL RECALL NO. 0839. OWNERS MAY ALSO CONTACT THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRAFFIC SAFETY ADMINISTRATION'S VEHICLE SAFETY HOTLINE AT 1-888-327-4236 (TTY 1-800-424-9153), OR GO TO HTTP://WWW.SAFERCAR.GOV .
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Swamp2
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:57 am: |
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Thanks for all the advice, I appreciate it. I'll provide the "to-do" list to my sales dude. If anybody knows the latest, greatest ECM flash version that should be loaded, I'd like to make sure that's in there too... |
Grianp
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 11:22 am: |
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@Swamp2 - you may not want to get the latest flash, but I could be wrong. I was told by Al at American Sport Bike that if you plan on doing any modifications and want to be able to tune the ECM, getting the latest flash could possibly render the ECM untunable. |
Froggy
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 11:31 am: |
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Which wouldn't be an issue anyway, they run pretty good out of the box. Also, more tuning programs are in the works. All it would take is time for them to become compatible. |
Vospertw
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 12:19 pm: |
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Thanks Froggy. |
Nvr2old
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 02:49 pm: |
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Is this the guide that was installed for the recall? I'm just making sure the recall was done. The HD site doesn't show any recalls needing to be done when putting in the VIN number. http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk19/SnackBauer /Ss%20recall/Ss_recall.jpg |
Swamp2
| Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 08:54 pm: |
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Swamp2 - you may not want to get the latest flash, but I could be wrong. I was told by Al at American Sport Bike that if you plan on doing any modifications and want to be able to tune the ECM, getting the latest flash could possibly render the ECM untunable. I have no intentions of any mods to the bike, I just want it to run as well as it can with the stock stuff. Generally, at least on the 1125, every update allegedly improved things so I figured the same would be true for the XB's. Since it's unlikely there will be any subsequent updates coming from the factory () I figured the latest would be the best... And, if for some reason I feel like I need a faster bike, I'll ride my 1125CR, which will also remain stock. It's fast enough to scare the crap out of me as is... |
Vospertw
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:23 am: |
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"Is this the guide that was installed for the recall? I'm just making sure the recall was done. The HD site doesn't show any recalls needing to be done when putting in the VIN number." Nvr2old - just had the recall installed yesterday and that's the guide... so either it's correct or we're both screwed. |
Nvr2old
| Posted on Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:58 am: |
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Thanks Vospertw, I'm not sure how it works, but I guess I'm glad it's there. |
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