| Author | Message | ||
     Buellman39 |
I called my local dealer at lunch today to get a front muffler clamp. They didn't have one in stock. I asked how long it would take and he said 5-10 days depending on if its available. I said what do you mean if it's available. He said it's listed as absolute and that buell was discontinuing all of there parts. I thought they had to supply parts for seven years. WTF is the deal here. | ||
| Fast1075 |
Not ALL Hardly Slops signed up to carry Buell stuff in the long run....if they are not signed up as a Buell dealer (some shops that USED to be Buell dealers have dropped the brand), they CAN'T order parts. | ||
| Nik |
Just get a torca clamp of the right size. | ||
| Fast1075 |
I bet Al at American Sport Bike has some. | ||
| Bromanowski |
I had my local dealer (Manchester HD, NH)order a bunch of stuff (clutch cable, front modules, oil lines, etc.) everything came within 2 business days. They said there is plenty of stock of everything. If you think about it all the parts bins that were originally meant to build new bikes before the shut down are now our parts source. That well won't dry up for a while. | ||
| Buellman39 |
I'm not worried about getting a hold of one. You can order 3/4 x 6" stainless T-Bolt clamps from McMaster Carr. I thought by law Harley has supply parts and service for 7 years. The dealer i called races buells and is a buell dealer. It's whites harley buell in lebanon Pa. | ||
| Froggy |
Source please? There is no law. (Message edited by froggy on November 17, 2009) | ||
| Tnxbrider |
If I can help with any parts concerns just send me a PM... anytime, Day, night, not Christmas... please. T | ||
| Drkside79 |
While there may be now law enforcing it HD is still selling warranties. So unless they want to get sued they must make parts to cover warranty work. | ||
| Andymnelson |
"Source please? There is no law. " Froggy, what makes you say this...other than Court and others like to say it? Most all states have statutes that require a manufacturer to provide full parts availability for the life of the warranty. Isn't the max extended warranty 5 years...for a total of 7? If that's the case, then there is in fact laws in place requiring parts availability....for 7 years form the date of the last Buell sold for that model in each state! | ||
| Froggy |
I say it because every keeps claiming that there is some mysterious law for it, but nobody has any details. Court did some digging and only found laws outside the US, and in parts of Europe they are required to do it for 10 years. | ||
| Court |
>>>Most all states have statutes that require a manufacturer to provide full parts availability for the life of the warranty. Cool . . and I am SURE you are right. But I think I have about every motorcycle law, statute and regulation there is and all I find, with regard to this, is rumor and innuendo. Lots of discussions on lots of old car sites . . . but no one can site a source. If . . say they announced next week . . . they were going to stop selling belts and you wanted to sue . . .what would you sue for? It's almost got to be breach . . but . . . OF WHAT? I'm eager to find out . . . but too busy to spend much time running down the answer . . . so I just keep pimping you guys.  | ||
| Midknyte |
Just out of curiousity, and because I'd like to own one some day, I googled for production numbers for the Chevy Corvair. http://www.corvaircorsa.com/prod.html Seems that as many or more of them were made in '65 (one year) than all of Buell's production to date. I was hoping perhaps that I could use the 'vair as a yardstick since there are still enthusiasts and collectors out there and they still have a parts chain. Maybe, perhaps, the analogy still holds a little water when you compare cars to cars. i.e. the production numbers of Corvairs against all of Chevy's production. Anyway, surely, can't we figure on *someone* filling in the gaps for us in a worst case scenario? | ||
| Andymnelson |
Ok, I was just curious if you had some actual knowledge or were just regurgitating Court's thoughts. There are, in fact, laws that govern this...but rather indirectly as stated above. And most cases are left to the consumer to enforce- and who would? Who's going to hire a $200/hour lawyer because they can't get get a $6 clamp?? Most state code is actually vague enough as to say "parts most be available for the period of the warranty"...meaning the don't limit the availability of the parts to the ones providing the warranty. As this stage, HD has very publicly stated that they will provide parts for 7 years....sounds like a contract to me! | ||
| 1_mike |
I bought a coupla belts for my 1125 last week. The sales guy (who also races air cooled Buells) showed me where the computer screen had a "short supply, soon obsolete" (not absolute!!) under the part number. AND...I'll bet...as OEM part supplies dwindle, dry up, begin to run out...prices will go up. 1125 oil filters...priced them lately..? Mike | ||
| Toecutter |
"As this stage, HD has very publicly stated that they will provide parts for 7 years....sounds like a contract to me!" Really??? Harley really said that? I thought they said, "And Harley-Davidson EXPECTS to be providing replacement parts and service for as many years as required market by market." Sounds to me like Harley has a lot of wiggle room in that statement. | ||
| Alchemy |
In the business where I have some experience, the issue is that some PO have T's & C's that require parts support for a number of years. If you act on the PO then the argument follows that a contract exists. This can be particularly the case for Gov't purchases. If HD sold many Police bikes they may be on the hook to provide parts and support for the governments purchasing them. Pure speculation on my part. Also, parts availability does not mean that prices are locked. | ||
| California69gs |
I love my Buell.....as do many others. As a demand rises the void will be filled by someone for parts that are considered "regular" maintance. The cost may be high, but who are we kidding, being part Harley parts and service have never been cheap. A fair number of parts are interchaged with the sportster, correct? How about Froggy or someone come up with a buell interchangable parts manual, and make some money. I don't think "to" many businesses relied solely on Buell so they will be around, just harder to find until people find them. It's to bad Buell/Harley didn't share this source list with us. Some pieces will have to be custom made. Obviously the less "Harley" it is, the harder it will be. I don't ride my bike like I stole it, yet I don't baby it either. Considering I've been averaging a "new to me" bike every year (a blast, ACE, Superhawk, and two XB's)it's not like I won't have another bike. So for the time, I'm gonna enjoy the bike but I'm gonna have to enjoy it longer then usual as I don't expect the resale to be wonderful enough to get rid of it, likely I'll keep it forever. I'm glad I got the 4 year non Harley warranty as I'm good for another 4 years. I wouldn't expect Harley to honor anything, they already have court issues to deal with for bad business practices and there just isn't enough of us to worry them. If a dealer is able to help you out, say thank you....if they can't.....well it's not like they were on the board of directors so say thanks anyway and start your search elsewhere. Just my .02 | ||
| Froggy |
Wrong. A handful of fasteners, a bulb or two. Thats about it. I can dig through my parts book and spot the non-buell parts and post them. | ||
| Barker |
"So unless they want to get sued they must make parts to cover warranty work." IIRC they can not fix your bike under warranty, HD can just give you a check for the street value and then crush it. | ||
| Andymnelson |
Well this is what it says at Buell.com: "How will I get my Buell serviced? Will you honor my warranty? Authorized Buell Service Providers will provide warranty, service and repair work. And Harley-Davidson expects to be providing replacement parts and service for as many years as required market by market. Of course we will honor all of our warranties." I swear, it used to say 7 years! Perhaps I have been influenced by the interwebs too much, but I thought that I even read Court saying that they committed to it, in site of not being able to find a law that requires it... | ||
| Damnut |
Wrong. A handful of fasteners, a bulb or two. When my plug blew out in NY and I had to switch the head out on a Sunday, the only thing that was open was a HD shop. The head gasket that I bought was for a sporty and the spark plug was for a VRod. Worked fine. | ||
| Buellman39 |
Maybe it is not 7 years or even 5 years. But for them to tell me a muffler strap is obsolete a couple of weeks after they discontinue the buell line has me worried for the future. I can see some other parts like brake calipers or other hard to get parts maybe being a problem but not muffler straps and other easy to get parts. | ||
| 46champ |
As long as we keep ridding the bikes and using parts to ride the bikes their will be people in the aftermarket that will step up and build the parts. There are probably people that are members of this website who will be the ones to step up. The most important thing is don't park the bike thinking your going to save it there has to be a market for the aftermarket to support. | ||
| Froggy |
You missed my "Thats about it" Skimming over the parts book, I see several gaskets, o-rings, and various other crap that would be at Autozone either way. | ||
| Dinuns1 |
theres a lot more than a handful of parts that are interchangeable on the xbs and even more so on tube frames but parts avail should be a problem with all the resources out there |
