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     Froggy |
Hey all, I made up a quick little chart to compare the maintenance of a XB vs 1125 over the course of 20k miles. Service and number of times you would of performed the work:
This table isn't including the stuff thats checked at all intervals like checking brake pads and fluid. All data taken right from the 2010 manuals on Buell.com Costs work out about the same anyway. For example the 1125 oil filter only gets changed every other time, but costs twice as much. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Augustus74 |
Damn, I thought I was gonna save some money! *this does imply that the 1125 is more reliable though right? Go to hell H-D* | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Bromanowski |
I wouldn't say it means the 1125 is more reliable. These are all maintenance things so they have no real correlation to things breaking. Also some of these can go longer than the manual says, i.e. any dealer will tell you the fork oil can go a lot longer than 10K and some good platinum or iridium plugs can go 25K or 50K respectively. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Froggy |
Too soon to say on the long term reliability of the 1125, but being build by Rotax I got no reason to doubt it will least a long time. Only difference vs the XB mill is that its been around longer and its proven its durability and had potential long term issues fixed. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 4cammer |
Who does not change the oil filter every time they change the oil? Really? And what does it cost to check the valves if the dealer does it? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Froggy |
The oil filter is designed to last for the longer intervals, and because its a cartridge type you can inspect it and put it back in if you desired. A new filter actually filters out large particles worse than a old one. I did a search in the archives, obviously going to vary by region and dealer, but $200ish for the valves, and $400 for the entire service. About the same cost of a XB service near me. It isn't hard to do, but the time vampire will be rotating the motor down and back up. The spark plug interval is the same as the valves, so its killing 2 birds with one stone. (Message edited by froggy on November 06, 2009) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Chessm |
$800 estimate for valve adjustment here  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Boltrider |
Where is the 1125 oil filter? Is it internal? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Wavex |
What was the point of this? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Froggy |
Yes its internal, 2 screws hold the cover that holds it in. She does make a nice mess when you take it out!  I posted this to dispel the higher maintenance myth.  | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Nik |
You missed an air filter change for the 1125 at 12,400. And how long does doing the whole valve check on the 1125 take compared to adjusting the primary chain and clutch cable on an XB? The XB service intervals are written to be round nicely in miles, and the 1125s are written to round nicely in kilometers. Is there anything special about the 1125 that makes the oil last 1200 miles more? No, its arbitrary. So why not look at the first five service intervals instead? Note that at the 5th 1125 service interval, the XB is not quite yet ready for its 6th.
also I pulled my numbers from the 2009 manuals. (Message edited by nik on November 06, 2009) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Froggy |
The 1125R manual states "Replace filter element as required", which means you inspect it, and if necessary you replace it, vs the XB's are replacement regardless. The valve check takes a couple hours depending on the tech and available tools, and majority of that is rotating the motor, which is easier to do than the XB as it is less involved. Primary chain adjustment is a pain the ass and requires pulling the plugs regardless of if they need changing or not. Well you could do it the lazy way and just click the starter, but that is a pain to get an accurate reading all around the chain. Adjusting a clutch is another thing I have always hated, it takes several attempts to get it to feel good at the lever, then you go for a ride and it slips during a wheelie. Then the cable needs constant lubrication to prevent it from binding and snapping, and in the end you still have a harsh steel cable feel instead of the silky smooth fluid action. Nope, there is nothing special I know of that makes the 1125 go 1200 miles further between service, but it does mean less time in the shop! And if your counting the first 5 services, your XB is at only 20k miles (1k, 5k, 10k, 15k, 20k,) while you could still be out riding on the 1125 as it would be at 24,800 miles come 5th service. That is only 200 miles shy from the 6th service on the XB. It gets even better if you continue, at 49,600 miles you are on service #9 for the 1125, and the XB would be a few miles shy of its 11th service. I didn't do the math on the costs of fluids, but I figure a few quarts of formula+ are probably about the same as a bottle of coolant. In the end it doesn't really matter, they both got their pro and cons when it comes to maintenance, and they are both really easy to work on. A service manual and Badweb is all you need for a Buell | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Nik |
I don't pull the plugs to adjust the primary, or blip the starter, I just muscle it around in 5th gear. I also have never had any issues adjusting the clutch per the manual on the first try. I only lube the cable once a year or so and have never found it to be lacking. HTFU! How many people that do their own maintenance actually follow the published service schedule anyway? |
