| Author | Message | ||
     Gunut75 |
Just noticed at work yesterday, that I'm through the top layer of rubber on the rear tire. Puppied 'er home for the last 35 miles. Seeing as the front is completely shot as well, it's time to put the scoot up till I can get some new shoes for it. I think I'm gonna look at the Metzler Z6 Interact. Sport bike touring tire they say?..........we'll see! Hopefully I can get more than 4500 miles out of the next set.  | ||
| Ducbsa |
I have 6400 on the OEM tires, so you do ride harder than me. I will get Mich Pilot Road 2's over the winter. | ||
| Tpoppa |
The new Pirelli Angel ST looks really interesting. | ||
| Gunut75 |
The ones I have now are Dunlop D208. Certainly not a tire for my style of riding. The 208s are suuuper soft. Good grip for a track tire, they just don't last for my 70mi a day on concrete highways. I don't think anyone here has the Metzlers, so I'll do a write up during next season. Of course they will be broken in this year! I like the cold weather riding!  | ||
| Tpoppa |
Dang, you got 4,500 out of a 208 rear? I'm lucky to get that out of a sport touring tire. My Z6s and Conti Road Attacks are consistently finished around 4,500-5,000. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
I may have mentioned this before, but I am very happy with the performance of my new Michelin Pilot Road 2's, and a lot of guys on the board have commented very positively on them as well. They are long lasting, handle great in the rain, but most importantly to me, they just plain handle great. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
The PR2's are great! They are my favorite tires. Another great tire is the Avon Storm ST. To me, it's the closest equivalent to the PR2. | ||
| Brumbear |
I cooked a set of PC3 blued out the side edges the tires balled up a bit but the are very blue in color I don't know what to do right now as I love the tires but I believe I might be causing to much Heat on the edges because I am rather heavy and ride somewhat agressive maybe a more sport touring tire would work but I like em sticky. So sorry I can't help you I can't even help myself at this point I am a little bewildered with all these crazy tires | ||
| Jraice |
+1 on PR2's... HIGHLY RECOMMEND THEM! OEM Pirelli's were doing fine for me but a long freeway stint at 85-90mph from LA to home (near SF) made them hit chords, only 200 miles into the ride! Couldnt take the heat or something. PR2's I got around 4,000 before I hit wear bars on the mid part of the edge. Center hit not long after that and the front was close. But I ran my PR2's at around 32 psi front and 34psi rear for extra grip and to get as much heat as possible into them as I ride only spirited twisties. I'd imagine you'd get even better mileage with more standard pressures, say 34/36 or even up to 38 in the rear and still be able to ride very hard in the twisties. I know people who ride much harder then I can on the street and run the rear higher then 36 without to much trouble. | ||
| Geforce |
Tires are like a fine art. If you ever go to the track and there is a good tire dealer that will let you pick their brain a little. Ask them about heat/grip/longevity etc. I really really enjoyed the Corsa IIIs at the track. They were easy to maintain and were very sticky. On the street, they do not last long though. And that just plain sucks if you don't have the funds to maintain that. Another fun thing to do at any race or track day is to walk around the pits and just look at wear patterns on tires. At most track days you will see a wide variety of tire brands and different methods being used. It can really help you figure out what to look for in a set of tires. When I went to Hallett raceway in OK, the instructors swore by Conti's and they run an unusually high amount of tire pressure in them in comparison to what most of us were at on multi compound tires. | ||
| Gunut75 |
Jraice, did you have PR2's or PP2's? A HUGE thanks to Steve Mackay!!!!!! He has a used set of PP2's that will get me through the rest of the season without shelling out a few hundred bucks. I suppose I will get to try the Michelins after all. Starting next season, I will find a new set to put on there. Whichever route I go, it'll probably be a sport/touring tire. Most of my 35 mi. ride to work is a loooooong straight line. Thanks for the input. Ian | ||
| Herobluebuell |
to the O.p. I run Metzler Za roadtacs and they are a great overall tire. Do well in the rain if you have the matching front and rear. I recently just finished up my first rear tire and i got about 5500 out of it. Not to shabby. | ||
| Herobluebuell |
to the O.P. i Run metzler z6 roadtacs. and they handle good and are good in the rain if you have the matching front. I just finished up my rear at 5500 miles not to shabby. | ||
| Jraice |
Ian, I used the Pilot Road 2's. If you have a 35 mi ride to work I'd definetly go with those, unless you dont ride twisties much then you could get a less expensive single compound tire. Mine at lower tire pressures felt pretty good, grip was nice but I did have a slide here and there, but I essentially ONLY ride twisties. The BT-016's gave me a lot more confidence, but the Road 2's had plenty of grip for the average rider, I was riding pretty hard and usually on less ideal pavement when they would slide a bit, always came right back in though with no drama. I'd also look at the Dunlop Road Smarts, similar type of tire and I hear good things. Oh and if $$$ is an issue I am guessing the BT-021's would be a good tire, I have heard all three (PR2, 21 and Road Smart) are about the same, but 'Stones are usually the cheapest. I love my 16's. More confidence, and they seem to be happier when trail braking. The PR2's always stood up under braking. With the 16's even with heavy braking into corners at the track the bike could remain leaned with just a slight push on the bar. | ||
| Gunut75 |
BT-021's are pretty darn cheap if you look around too! I found them for $200 for the pair! Maybe I'll start packing away pennies for those next season. | ||
| Gunut75 |
You guys with all the twisty roads make me want to move sooooo bad! I have only found a handful here in SE WI. Those need to be ridden first to see how much gravel has been kicked up.  | ||
| Brumbear |
As I refrensed before note the blueing on the tire it has the correct AP 35 in it I just don't get it second set in a row 1 dunflop other PC3 what do you guys think  | ||
| Ulynut |
Brumbear, I would run those, but carefully. They get hard when they get like that. I had a set of Avons do that in really hot weather. I was also 275 lbs then too. They sucked after that. | ||
| Brumbear |
I think thats sound advice and I really have no choice right now anyway, They are gonna have to make the spring | ||
| Bdb_csiii |
I commute 140 miles a day on my 12R,on mostly chip seal roads (read: eats tires for lunch). I'm running Pirelli Scorpion Sync's and got over 6k out of the last rear and the front is still going strong. This summer has been especially wet for Kansas and the Sync's are superb in the rain. | ||
| Fltwistygirl |
+1 on the scorpion syncs. Got over 6K on both front n back tires doing a 106 mile commute (mostly superslab) to work 4 - 8 days per month. Getting new ones installed today! Nothing like that new tire feel...can't wait to break 'em in! B. | ||
| Brumbear |
I got this reply from Pirelli Hello Tire bluing is normally related to aggressive riding, abrasive pavement, incorrect suspension settings for the application, or incorrect tire pressures. Tire bluing is not considered to be a flaw in the product. We would suggest that you bump up the tire pressure to 38-40 and just ride the bike. You should also note the DCIII is considered to be a ultra high performance street/track day tire and it is even used in Europe as a race tire. Finally you may want to double check the accuracy of your tire gauge too. Thanks for the e-mail and have a great day. US Pirelli Moto www.us.pirellimoto.com 800 747-3554, prompt 2 | ||
| Brumbear |
38-40 in NJ might knock the teeth out of your mouth but I will try it the suspension is spot on as it can be and the front tire is good. Perhaps the abrasivepavement is the cause as alot of the roads here are not great but I think I will just try a different tire next time This is the email I sent them: Message: I have PC III tires on my buell xb12ss motorcycle I love them but the edges of the tire keep going blue I have a picture I will try to send it to you. The tire pressure is 35 PSI and I have not done any track days on the tires. I am heavy but not that it should make a difference. I would love to keep buying Pirelli tires but they are expensive and I need to get this sorted out first. Any help you can give me would be appreciated | ||
| Jraice |
Fltwistygirl. FWIW... modern tires dont have a break in period. Once they are warmed up they will grip just as well as they will when they are scrubbed in, the key is to get them up to temp. Lots of people ride brand new tires at the track, after a warm up lap they can ride as fast as they want, the tire will grip its best when its brand new. | ||
| Gunut75 |
Yup Jraice! Just make sure they warm up properly! DAMHIK. | ||
| Fltwistygirl |
Thanks for the clarification, JRAICE. That was one thing I actually knew about m/c tires before I started shopping for replacements. Learned a bunch more in the mean time. By breakin' em in I meant getting a few hundred miles on them in the next few days, and re-adjusting to riding my bike with awesome, fresh (to me), sticky, grippy, non-flat spotted rubber. Nite, y'all! B. | ||
| Court |
>>>modern tires dont have a break in period. I'd sure disagree. I put on a new rear Saturday and spent the first hundred miles exercising a degree of caution. I'd do some research before I bolted out the door on new tires. They need some use and a couple heat cycles. | ||
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| Gunut75 |
Good to know Court! Thanx! | ||
| Jraice |
Court... To each his own. I am just telling you what I have experience with. On the street I have never held back much after getting 20-25 miles on a tire to let it fully warm up and get used to its characteristics. And as I said, I know lots of track riders who will run A group times on brand new tires after getting some heat in them. I will note however that the Isle of Man riders do take it easy on new tires, perhaps there is some truth to it, but they are pushing the limits beyond anything we will ever experience and perhaps part of them taking it a little easy at first is getting extra heat into the tires (I would guess they use warmers though). Either way I have always found new tires to grip great when heated and have seen people on the track dragging knee at 100mph with mere minutes on brand new tires. |
