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Petebueller
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Pegasus Customizing has them for Micron Headers
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Big_b
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think kit B would fit the micron since the catalyst header curves up higher like the micron. Just a thought.
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Twinv
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PeteBueller, thanks for the lead.
I have asked them to send me a pic of the one for the micron. The one pic they have on their website is for the standard header. Also at $369.0 that is a substantial amount of cash.......I know I know you don't set prices...:-)

Big-b, you might be correct, though not guaranty as that relieve in the scoop seams to be molded around the Buell header with cat. What are the odds that the micron is shaped close enough.....not with my luck, and $120 to find out is more than I can afford....why it can't be simple and affordable......
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Wgnzlz
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I got the 2010 XBS/R scoop today and installed it on my cg. The part number is M0854.7AA and it cost $6.25. Can't beat that price.

(Message edited by wgnzlz on August 07, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 06:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Twinv, I also have a Micron on my UlySS thing, I have been investigating it too. I will be buying several scoops, so I will let you know.
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Twinv
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wgnzlz, can you tell us if you notice a reduction of heat and/or less fan run time?

Froggy, awesome! Appreciate whatever I can learn.
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Wgnzlz
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just checked the price on the M0854.7AA scoop at chicagoharley.com and it looks like the price has been changed to $15.95. I was wondering how they were making any money selling it at $6.25.
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Wgnzlz
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Twinv, I just put it on this evening and haven't had a chance to ride it yet (had to take the wife to diner). However, I can't remember the last time my fan turned on before I shut the bike off.

(Message edited by wgnzlz on August 07, 2009)
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks like Buell changed the price, I checked it on Latus (board sponsor with great service unlike shitcago) and it said
"List Price: $6.25
Price: $15.95"
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Smiley1eye
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So I guess FINALLY that you "no scoop" guys are gonna believe?

THE RSS IS ALIVE!!!!

PS: It really DOES work...
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Wgnzlz
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I apologize for posting that website, since they aren't a board sponsor. I've never bought anything from them, I just use their site to check prices.
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Wgnzlz
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Smiley1eye, I'm not sure if it works, but for $6.25 I'm willing to try it.
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Wgnzlz
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm trying to be the post of the day, so here are some pictures I just took with my phone.





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Dmhines
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bummer. Looks like I ordered the wrong scoop. I wanted the small XBS Scoop not the XBSX scoop.
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Court
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

So I guess FINALLY that you "no scoop" guys are gonna believe?

THE RSS IS ALIVE!!!!

PS: It really DOES work...




The current Buell RIDER COMFORT KIT and the ol' RSS are unrelated in both form and function. Their sole common item is general shape and location.

One solves the problem, the other disguises it.
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Johntman
Posted on Friday, August 07, 2009 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yet no one can tell us exactly what is going on with the xb12Scg Xb9sx or Xb12r only the "uly comfort kit".


do the small frame buells only have a different scoop? or is there more going on? like the fan duct kit?
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 06:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Yet no one can tell us exactly what is going on with the xb12Scg Xb9sx or Xb12r only the "uly comfort kit".

huh?

What about the part numbers for all other bikes and the fitment kits that have been posted here. And .. yesterday when I was at the dealer there was a stack of Buell catalogs with everything from magnesium race wheels and Ohlins steering damped to childrens t-shirts that had a complete page on the RIDE COMFORT KIT.
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Johntman
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It is my understanding that the "rider kit" is for the uly. The uly got a different scoop and a fan duct along with a heat shield and a reflash for the ecm.

I also notice that the Scg, Sx, and R all got a new scoop for 2010. I have seen the part number for the scoop, but was wondering if that was all? the small frame only got a scoop and no mod to the fan shroud? No remap for the ecm on the small frame? Those are the questions I have yet to see be answered.
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You need to talk to your BUELL DEALER.

Here is stuff I picked up just while rummaging about the dealer yesterday. There were plenty of Buell catalogs and parts displays.

For what it's worth your BUELL DEALER has at LEAST one case of these cataglogs sitting around.















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Petebueller
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

PeteBueller, thanks for the lead.
I have asked them to send me a pic of the one for the micron. The one pic they have on their website is for the standard header. Also at $369.0 that is a substantial amount of cash.......I know I know you don't set prices...:-)


Hi Twinv.

That $369 Australian is about $310 US. I think that you sent the request to my little shop. You could probably buy direct from Pegasus Customizing at a lower price because of the double international mail. I sent a rushed reply to your Email tonight. I'll send off some pictures tomorrow and put you in touch with PC to see what price they have them for.

I was wondering if the catalyser version would fit. It would be good if it did. PC had one for the catalyser a long time before they brought out one for the Micron. I don't think they would have done all of the extra development if they could have made one for both sets of headers. The Micron headers are a lot wider than the stock headers, and I think that the Micron headers go further back before the curve reverses.

The current Buell RIDER COMFORT KIT and the ol' RSS are unrelated in both form and function. Their sole common item is general shape and location.
One solves the problem, the other disguises it.


I'm guessing that you've not tried a RHS Court. Taking Paracetamol to treat a fever is maybe masking the fever, but it is also treating it. In the case of the Uly, the high guard seems to be creating a problem. Friends who have done low guard conversions on Ulys also notice the fan comes on less.

A friend has an XB9S and bought a Uly to add to his collection. The first thing he noticed was that the fan was on almost all the way to work which is basically highway all the way. He called to ask if this is normal. I suggested he try a RSS, which he fitted a few months ago. He called me today and during the conversation he said that the fan doesn't go on the highway at all anymore and the frame stays cooler.

This is what I have found and have heard from everyone I know who has one fitted. I have seen the test reports where no difference was measured in the temperature of the rear cylinder with or without a scoop. The thing that needs to be measured is how often the fan comes on and how long it runs for after the bike has stopped. The difference is huge.

I don't see why it is a topic that arouses such controversy. Some say it works and they have one. Others say I don't need it so they don't have one. I guess what I find confusing are those who don't have one who feel the need to tell those who do that they can't possibly work.
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Mpolans
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm a little confused. Looks like the XT and XP bikes got a "comfort kit" which looks like the aftermarket RSSs. The S/Scg bikes got a right side cover designed to cover the new O2 sensor and looks like crap compared to the aftermarket RSSs.

Will they "comfort kit" (at least the RSS part) designed for the XT/XP bikes fit on the S/Scg bikes?
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Macdiver
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 06:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The catalog page shown above is for the different Uly models. Does a factory "comfort kit" exist for the firebolt and lightning models?
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Does a factory "comfort kit" exist for the firebolt and lightning models?




Nope
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Macdiver
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Froggy,

That is what I thought, but then the info above was posted in response to the question if a kit existed for the other bikes. Since I am easily confused I had to ask specifically.

So in summary, there is a new right side scoop for the lightning & firebolts but not a full "Riders Comfort Kit". Or am I still confused and there is no scoop for the lightning and firebolts either?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



As you can see above there is a scoop, just not a kit. It appears that you can just order the pieces (inner and outer scoop, header shroud, fasteners) and then install it that way. The Uly's got a kit because it is more complex, with new underseat tray, fan ducts and other goodies.
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Johntman
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

There is definately a new scoop for the firebolts and lightnings... the million dollar question that I have yet to see the answer to is if there is anything going on under the seat differently like the fan shrouds, or if there is an ecm reflash like the uly, or if it is just a scoop only.

I was told to go ask my local dealer...

I will have to wait til the 10's are here and go pull the seat myself as my dealer is clueless.
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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

While it's good that they've finally done something...

Why the hell didn't Buell match the looks of the right to the old left?
Or make the old left look like the new right side..(or does it)?
That's just weird..!

Mike
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 06:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its a case of function over form. If you want one that looks like the left, get that super expensive fiberglass or carbon ones that are available aftermarket. The Buell scoop solves the problem, not covers it up.

Buell has been doing a lot with fluid dynamics lately, and it shows, especially in the new front brake rotor.
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1_mike
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Function over form....

That's a funny one...!

IF...if is "form over function"...was the left side designed wrong?

I just love some of these great answers..

Mike
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 08:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

>>>>Why the hell didn't Buell match the looks of the right to the old left?

It was made to work right, not look symmetrical.

Far . . . make that FAR, different things are happening on the left and right sides of the bikes.

I hark back to the good old days of the X1 when "research" was a video camera, an open side door on a Dodge Caravan and lots of knitting yarn taped all over the bike.

That was fun but it was NOT the "good ol' days".

I'll be putting a 1,000 miles on mine the next couple days . . .eager to see how it works.

"Function over form" is 100% accurate.

By the was . . . . I see you are a test engineer and not far from where all the acoustic dynamics testing was conducted for over a year for the HVPS Buell pioneered. Talk about true function (worked fabulously) over form (looked terrible) example!
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