| Author | Message | ||
     Union_man |
My husband is having me write to see if anyone knows what to do to help him. He said the 15 amp ignition fuse blows everytime he starts it. He thought maybe someone would know if there is a spot where a wire rubs that would cause it, or any other possibilities? Someone please help, or I have to drive to pick him up.}} | ||
| Spdrxb |
I'M no expert and I dont currently have my shop manual with wire diagrams but.... is everything ok until he hits start button? Is it running when it blows? If only blows when he hits start button.... while it might not be the best thing to do he could bump start it to avoid using starter if thats what is blowing it? just an idea hope that helps. | ||
| Bikertrash05 |
To add to Spdrxb's questions, does it run rough and then blow the fuse? | ||
| Union_man |
I'm not sure if it runs before the fuse blows or if it blows when he hits the start button. I have been trying to call him to find out, but his cell phone is out of range and I have to wait for him to call me. Thanks for any suggestions given, I appreciate it! If anyone has any other questions I should ask him, please let me know. | ||
| Froggy |
See if you can get him to call someone from this list in the area, he might be able to get a hand from someone. http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/boar d-auth.cgi?file=/42/42.html&lm=1248827405 | ||
| Badbuell08 |
there is a harley dealer in sturgis if there is a way for him to get there they should be able to help or maybe call them | ||
| Chainsaw |
Same thing happened to my 03 XB9R. Turned out to be a shorted speedo sensor. Unplugged it and the bike would start and run fine. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
Chainsaws comment reminded me that a lot of these types of issues originate in the mess under the sprocket cover. Have a visual of all the wires (take a picture first, it's a real tangle) and especially look at the orange connector. Any discolouring will throw the system off. | ||
| Point_doc |
It sounds like a short...what was the last item that he worked on? If he did work before he left for the trip, he might re-inspect the area of the work. Does it stop running when he turns the front wheel from side to side? I had a short on the left side of my frames' neck where the wire loop exits the frame and enters the light housing. It would run until I would turn the handlebars from side right to left, then it would blow a fuse. Good luck... | ||
| Damnut |
FYI Looks like he rides a Uly. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Common failure points (including Chainsaw and Paint Doc's good suggestions above): 1) Wiring harness where it comes out from under the flyscreen and around the frame towards the head. 2) Speedo sensor. 3) Bundle of ECM wires under the seat. 4) Fan | ||
| Union_man |
My husband finally called and this is the problem: when the key is turned on, and the ignition switch is off, everything works. But when the ignition switch is turned on, then the EFI charges, and the gauges move normally, but within a few seconds the fuse blows. I hope this helps answer some of the previous questions, so that he can get more suggestions on what to do. He has taken everyones advise on what to try so far, but nothing has worked. Thanks to all of you who wrote. P.S. He did go to the Harley place nearby, and they said it would take 3-4 days to fix (I'm sure there are others before him), and my husband has to be home to work Friday morning. And the "bad weather bikers" list of names was great, but he couldn't get a hold of the guy. I'm sure he's probably at Sturgis also!  | ||
| Sparky |
I'd suggest pulling the Ignition Relay, then turn on the ignition and see if the fuse blows. - If it blows, one wire goes from the Ignition Fuse to the Ignition Relay contact. The problem may be in this one wire. - If it does not blow, the Ignition Relay switched contact is wired to the following components and the problem may be either in the wiring to these components or one of the components. -- Front Injector -- Rear Injector -- Ignition Coil -- Fuel Pump -- Speedo Sensor -- ECM -- (I don't know for certain) Exhaust Actuator Because the fuse doesn't instantly blow when the Ignition is turned on, that leads me to believe that the problem is more likely with a component (see Reepicheep's list above) rather than a shorting wire. - Going with Chainsaw, my vote would be to disconnect the Speedo Sensor and test the fuse. Its connector is under the belt's front sprocket cover. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
While he's at the dealer, the relay is a $7 part and easy to switch around to test. It's good to carry a spare. There's an automotive number for it if the dealer doesn't carry one. Hopefully, somebody here can tell us what the auto number is. | ||
| Union_man |
Husband called and he said there is no obvious burns to any wires. He switched the relay and it's not that. He couldn't find the speedo sensor to disconnect it. I told him what Sparky said, "under the belt's front sprocket cover". He said there is more than one wire, so can someone clarify where and maybe what to look for, right or left or something more to describe it? Thanks! | ||
| Point_doc |
http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/201850.html This post shows the location of the sensor and wire from the sensor. The sensor is located behind the belt final drive sprocket that is connected to the transmission. It is located to the right (outward) and back of the starter's positive post. Once the sensor is located, he should be able to follow the wire to its connector. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
Mine did that. It was a cracked ECM. To check for the crack gently press down on the big wire connectors on the ECM and look for a crack to appear along the edge of the ECM box itself. If a crack appears, wrap 2 zip ties around it and pull them tight to hold the crack closed. Locate a new ECM ASAP. If no crack appears, check for damaged wires coming from the ECM. | ||
| Iamarchangel |
You're a good wife. Under the front sprocket cover (actually it's the front pulley cover but...) the big sort of white connector is the speedo and the orangey one is the voltage regulator one. The orange one is where several of us are suggesting the problem is. There are two ground screws on the steering stem just above the lower triple clamp. Make sure they're solid connected. Forum: any idea on why there's a bit of delay before the fuse pops? Usually they pop fairly quickly, this one sounds like it goes through a cycle and then goes. | ||
| Chainsaw |
This shows what the connector for the speedo sensor looks like. I'll go pop the cover on mine and shoot a real picture. Being stranded sucks.  | ||
| Chainsaw |
Hope this helps. It's at least free to try anyway. IIRC, I ran mine for a week or two with the sensor unplugged till the dealer could replace under warranty.  | ||
| Wardamneagle |
I had this problem. Turned out to be some shotty wiring on the blinkers (go figure?!) Anyways, I re-soldered them and shrink wrapped the connection and have not had the problem since. Good luck to you. | ||
| Union_man |
Well he couldn't get it started in time, so I was going to have to go get him and bring our kids with, but luckily his best friend stepped up and said, he and his wife would go get him for me. So that saved me 20 hours of driving with kids, which would have been a nightmare, and all I had to do is watch their 2 kids, which get along with mine anyways. So it worked out great. But then on the way home the truck broke down, and it's not even a piece of crap, I just think my husband is having some major bad luck!  So of course he had to have it towed, and if they couldn't fix it, I was going to have to go get all of them, which would have been 14 hours of driving. But he just called and said it was fixed. But with towing and everything, they charged an arm and a leg. But again, I want to thank everyone for writing all the suggestions. He kept hoping he would get it running before our friends got there, so he could call them and let them turn around. It maybe didn't work this time, but if something ever happens again like this, he'll know different things to try, thanks to all of you. My husband is anxious to get here and read over all these himself, and he wants to see the picture too (Thanks Chainsaw for taking all the time to do that!). He told me you are all a great bunch of people, and he is so right! The next message will probably be from him, if he ever makes it home. Thanks again! | ||
| Chainsaw |
(Thanks Chainsaw for taking all the time to do that!). My pleasure, I wish we coulda got him up and running thou. I've been on a broken MC 1200 miles from home before, I know exactly how he feels right now. Aint no fun! | ||
| Court |
>>>>I just think my husband is having some major bad luck! Trust me . . with a wife like you . . . it'll all work out. Keep us posted. | ||
| Vanvideo |
LOL..is that the excuse he used? "Sorry honey, the Buell won't start, so I have to spend a few more days down here. Don't worry, I'm sure it'll be back up and running soon." j/k... good luck to him. | ||
| Ourdee |
Vanvideo, and getting his friends free baby-sitting and an excuse for where the money went. Hang in there it's all part of the adventure. | ||
| Union_man |
I am HOME!!! I would like to thank all of you BadWebbers that tried to help!!! This web site, and all who hang out here, make owning a Buell worth it, even when things are going bad! I went over all suggested areas and was unable to find the problem.  Must be a wire or something, but I can't find it! I am going to take it to the dealer Monday. I will post what they find. That's not all...I guess this was just not MY trip!!! My friend volunteered to drive my pick-up truck to Sturgis to rescue me. He arrived and we left Wed night. (2:30am after a "couple" beers at the Broken Spoke and Gunners) 1/2 way between Independence, and Murdo, SD my truck's fuel pump went out. All during a 3 1/2 inch downpour! The truck was towed to the Ford Dealer in Murdo and fixed. Thanks Bill and all the guys at the dealer for the quick ans competent service!!! I am going to go to Sturgis again next year! I will not be defeated!!!  | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
I am going to go to Sturgis again next year! I will not be defeated!!! great attitude! | ||
| Metalstorm |
Well you know what they say: That which does not kill you usually succeeds on the second attempt. No, that's not right.. That which does not kill you only makes you wish you were dead. Doh! that's not it either. Hold on... *thinks hard* Got it! That which does not kill you only makes you stronger!!! Yeah, that's it!  | ||
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