| Author |
Message |
    
Jakecheez
| | Posted on Monday, August 10, 2009 - 10:45 pm: | 
|
I guess i got what i was asking for.
well, my bike is in the shop more than its on the road. I shoulda asked mods=$hit goes wrong |
12rrrrrr
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 11:33 am: |
|
cant just ask what 1 mod will do as most people will have used them in conjunction with other mods to get the max effect and indeed the majority of mods REQUIRE you to mod other parts to get effect- that effect can vary depending on brand, design, how it was fitted, what bike, age, usage and the ability / driving style of the person sitting on it.
thats why i asked if you could list what you have so far so we could make a rough (or accurate) guess what additions would = what HP.
sorry if it came across wrong 
(Message edited by 12rrrrrr on August 11, 2009) |
Zatco81
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 11:46 am: |
|
well, my bike is in the shop more than its on the road. I shoulda asked mods=$hit goes wrong
MODS=RELIABILITY
 |
Diablobrian
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 06:01 pm: |
|
If you want cheap bang for buck, open air box and drummer are hard to beat, but MAY
also require some additional dyno time to get the fueling correct.
also getting the crank case vents out of the airbox and into a catch can is easy and
can be done on the cheap.
Depending on how/where you ride a chain conversion to allow gearing changes (up or
down) could be your cup o' tea.
If peak hp is your thing it really is hard to beat a "wet" (includes fuel line/solenoid
into the nozzle) nitrous kit if properly jetted. I cannot recommend a cheap "dry" kit
because air cooled motors die quickly that way.
What are your goals? you need to address this as a system not just as components or
you can spend a lot of money and get mediocre results. |
Jakecheez
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 03:00 am: |
|
Ok- guys get bashed on here all the time and I have personally told them not to take it the wrong way, cuz it's all fun and games. Aparently I need to take some of my own advise.
SORRY FOR BEING A BABY!!!
Now- my bike already ha more mods than I want, so the only thing I am doing is: putting the force pipe back on, taking the PC III off and re-tuning it to run well with what it has.
It's currently in the shop for all of this, cuz in Sturgis I was fouling plugs and replaced the wires as a result. It ran till I got home, then fouled another after being back in MN.
Is this a result of computer generated fuel to air ratio? Which would be compromised by the PC III? I thought so and it was the last straw to get my bike in and get the tuner off. (BTW- the PC III should be plug and play, but is "spliced" into wires running all under my seat) I did not install it and have had to many electrical headaches and not enough expertise to trust myself to remove it. Professionally done by a reliable shop, means they hold themselves accountible for it (hopefully).
As for the true reason of this post- besides showing my dad that a Buell is easily modded (because mine was done the WRONG way) I was also trying to convince my buddy who rides a Kawi 750 that a Buell can show considerable gains with certain mods. Basically I was trying to convince him to buy a new scg 12.
What you guys have said is correct and why should I care what either guy rides- to each his own. I just thought I could get some quick answers to wave in their faces.
I relize now, things become a bit more complicated than that.
Thanks for the helpful input and for those that were just messin with me- haha!
I'll get you in the next thread!
All in all- this has helped me, pissed me off a bit, but helped me nonetheless, so- thanks!
Ride Hard! |
Froggy
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 01:00 pm: |
|
Jake, there is a saying along the lines of "Fast, cheap, reliable. Pick two and live with it."
As for your plug fouling, one possibility is the PC3 is making the bike too rich. Depending on how butchered your harness is, you might want to invest in a new one, they go for around $70-100 on eBay. |
Jakecheez
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 01:48 pm: |
|
Yeah- but the harness to my ecu or ECM (still not 100% on what it's called) is vacant. As in- nothing is plugged into it.
The PC 3 is spliced straight into the o2 sensor wire that is going into the rear header and some other wires that are all shrink wrapped so I cannot tell what they belong to. |
Diablobrian
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 02:12 pm: |
|
I would chalk your plug fouling issues up to an incorrect tuning with the PC3. Those
piggy back units are only capable of adding fuel, they cannot adjust the fuel curve
as accurately as it needs to be.
That and the lengths of time you most likely sat at or near idle in traffic at Sturgis.
These bikes do tend to foul the front plug when the throttle is "blipped" and that is
with the stock fuel curve.
In short the PC3 on air cooled Buells is a waste. Getting the bike tuned via ECMspy or
the commercial software that modifies the stock ECM is much more effective, and no
"blipping" the throttle (not that you have been, just a general rule).
Beware, that force pipe is LOUD too, even on a track bike. It can cause issues if the
fuel curves are not changed from stock. It is designed for top of the rpms performance
and may leave you wanting on a street bike. |
12rrrrrr
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 02:15 pm: |
|
reread the post and this one made no sense 
EDITED
(Message edited by 12rrrrrr on August 14, 2009) |
Froggy
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 02:27 pm: |
|
12rrrrrr, that was what we have been telling him for the last like month |
12rrrrrr
| | Posted on Friday, August 14, 2009 - 06:12 pm: |
|
as far as my very limited understanding of buells goes - the simpler the better
unless you have about 30k to throw at it to make everything custom! |
|
