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New12r
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 07:57 pm: |
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I normally dont even balance my tires and have only had one front give me issues. Good luck |
Vortec57
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 08:41 pm: |
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My wheel has 1 1/4 ounce weight on it. My tech told me that the Pirelli tire on the Buell wheel was the closest balanced setup he'd ever seen. Be polite, but you deserve some refund and rebalancing! |
Rays
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:16 pm: |
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I don't know about other models but the 2006 Uly maintenance manual (page 2-24) has this note: NOTE The yellow circle on the sidewall is a balance mark and should be aligned 180 degrees from the balance mark (blue dot) on inside of rim. On my wheels at least that doesn't have the balance mark on the tyre where you would normally expect. |
Swordsman
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 09:36 am: |
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Weeeell.... I took it back yesterday and told them I had some serious misgivings about the amount of weight they had placed on the wheel. The guy at the counter (I believe he's the service manager) looked at the paperwork and said that in reality they only added a tiny bit of weight compared to what was on there before. He also said that their lead technician was the one who did the job, so he'd be very surprised if it was wrong. He wheeled it back to the back to double check with the tech, and when he came back he said that they were 100% confident it was done correctly. If that's true, then all I can figure is that the last weights were thicker. I'll reinstall this weekend and see what happens, I guess! ~SM |
Mrsinister
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 09:57 am: |
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I worked in a tire store for years. There is no way a bike should need three ounces of weight. It will most likely shake on you even with the weight if it is that far off. By the way they blew you off. |
Swordsman
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 10:04 am: |
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These balance marks people keep mentioning, are they on the inside of the tire and wheel? ~SM |
Hammer71
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 11:08 am: |
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they were 100% confident it was done correctly. I'm 100 percent confident that you were screwed and the job was and is done wrong. Take this as a learning experience, buy a No-Mar bar and do the tires yourself. I guarantee that you wont have this issue then. Balance marks are usually marked on the sidewall of the tire and are usually a colored dot. On michelin Pilot Powers the balance mark is actually the bar code (from Michelin themselves) |
Akbuell
| Posted on Friday, July 10, 2009 - 12:51 pm: |
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Some possibilities: 1. The wheel/disk/ect assembly is horribly out of balance. Since you have miles on it, and the previous tire didn't have much balance weight on it.... not likely. 2. The new tire is horribly out of balance. Possible, but given the state of quality control in the tire industry, not very likely. Certainly one the manufacturer WILL want back if this is the case. 3. The job was not done correctly. Most likely what has happened. Loosely mount the wheel on the bike, leaving brakes, ect off. Spin the wheel slowly, checking to make sure the tire doesn't have excessive run-out, and that the bead is seated correctly. Look to see where the painted dot on the sidewall is in relation to the valve stem. Should be at the valve stem or 180deg across from it, depending on the tire. Then note the valve stem position, and let go of the wheel. If balanced, the wheel should not move. Move the valve stem to a different point, and release. Again, if balanced correctly, the wheel should not move. If the wheel does turn, the balance is not correct. All that being said, I would believe that a reputable shop would have called you in to discuss the situation about the time they added the 5th 1/4oz weight. All of the above is based on having worked as a motorcycle and aircraft mechanic. Your wheel/tire situation is not right. |
Swordsman
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:00 am: |
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Okay, is THIS the balance mark? I've never seen one before, so I dunno what exactly I should be looking for. If it IS, then look how far off the tire was mounted! EDIT: wait hotlink wasn't permitted by that host. I'll have to post the pic separately. ~SM (Message edited by Swordsman on July 11, 2009) |
Swordsman
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:03 am: |
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Is that it? ~SM |
Metalstorm
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2009 - 10:58 pm: |
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I'm pretty sure the dot is located on the lip. You wouldn't be able to see it once mounted. I could be wrong. It may be different with different makes of tires but I'm 80% sure it was on the lip on my Rosso's. |
Iamarchangel
| Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2009 - 01:38 am: |
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He wheeled it back to the back to double check with the tech, and when he came back he said that they were 100% confident it was done correctly. If they can tell that wheels are correctly balanced by walking a bike to the back of a shop and back to you then they truly are master mechanics and you should not question their skills. They are Jedi masters. We are not worthy to go to their shop. I would find a shop with more humble setting and worship these paragons from afar. |
Doubled
| Posted on Monday, July 13, 2009 - 11:43 pm: |
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Is that it? Harkening back to my high school job playing with cage tires, that sure looks like a balance mark to me. Good luck with it!! |
Swordsman
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 01:01 pm: |
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Just an update, I went ahead and reinstalled the rear wheel and took it out for a long spin this past weekend. No wiggle at all, so it IS balanced. It's just ugly as hell. I figure as quickly as it will probably wear out, I'll let it slide, and just pick up the equipment to do it myself next time. Slowly but surely, the local shops are making me into a self sufficient rider! ~SM |
Swordsman
| Posted on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 01:03 pm: |
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Oh, and arch, they didn't take the whole bike back, just the loose wheel. Just in case there was some confusion there. ~SM |
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