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Buellmanran
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

what is all the parts needed and can it be done. I am buying a xb9r and thinking if i found a decent motor for cheep build it up at school and throw it in the bike.
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Old_man
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think that it would fit right in.
They are the same size.
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Schmitty
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nothing is different, it should bolt right up. The only difference externally is the exhaust valve actuator on the stock 12 muffler.

Schmitty
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hell you could turn the 9 into a 12 by changing the pistons, connecting rods, a few other internals and the ECM.
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the motor will fit, but the swing arm and oil lines may be different depending on the years of the frame and engine. 2003 to 2005 motors will swap out. But if you have a 2005 or older bike, the swing arm and oil lines from a 2006 and up aren't interchangeable. You need the swing arm for the year engine.
Confusing, isn't it.
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Schmitty
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The best set up would be to take the 9 pistons and put them into the 12 motor, giving you a high compression 12. This is a very popular and reliable set up at the club racing level.

Schmitty
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Zatco81
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Basically assuming you are swapping into the 04 that your profile says you have, you can swap an engine from 04-05 and use your existing swingarm. 12 engine 06 and up you will need to replace the swingarm. At least that's how I understood it. Somehow it became more confusing when you asked if it was confusing.
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Augustus74
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 05:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Someone here has done this, they painted everything white/blue iirc??? (might help with a search)
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Xoptimizedrsx
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have put 12 motors into nine frames. they swap perfectly. bolt right up. no mods needed except the ecm data.

mike
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Rocketsprink
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

exactly. Only difference is in the oil lines and swing arm depending on the years. Oh yeah. And the oil cooler.......it has to do with the oil line thingy again. Older ones are threaded. Newer ones have the retaining clip.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How hard is it to swap in the Corvette's LS9?
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Augustus74
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How handy are you?
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Andymnelson
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can fit anything you want.

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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, June 11, 2009 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

god that thing has to be loud!!! oh and a little NOS to top it off

Hell you could turn the 9 into a 12 by changing the pistons, connecting rods, a few other internals and the ECM.
+1 froggy, but i was thinking to bore it out
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Zatco81
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anything's possible with deep enough pockets.
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Dooley
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 12:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

for the oil line difference, you can also just use the older style oil lines and fittings to the newer motor
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

+1 froggy, but i was thinking to bore it out




Not many people know that the only real difference between the XB9 and XB12 is the stroke, so it is no big deal to turn one to the other with OEM parts.


quote:

god that thing has to be loud!!! oh and a little NOS to top it off




Where do I buy one? : D
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, June 12, 2009 - 01:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not many people know that the only real difference between the XB9 and XB12 is the stroke, so it is no big deal to turn one to the other with OEM parts.

whats on the list? crank shaft(?), connecting rods, piston bearings, 2 piston brearing c-clamps.... OH, I HAVE A SPARE XB12ECM IF NEEDED : D
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