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Fastxb12r
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was just wondering why if its a american made bike why then is most/all of the badass parts made in other countries.There not even over here unless you want to pay a arm and leg for S/H plus a weak dollar for the parts?

I mean there are japanese bikes here and you can buy every part you could possibly think of at little to nothing.

Then you have harleys and those parts are all easy peasy to get here also.

Is it because harley or buell doesent believe in or back their product sales longevity?

The reason I say this is just because I found another part I want that wouldnt be that bad to buy but with S/H+Dollar its outrageous.




Sort of a rant.....but a serious question I was wondering what people thought the problem may be?
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well, to start with just look at the number of Buells sold in the States verses the number sold overseas.
The number will floor you.
Last I heard of (a couple years ago) overseas sales were well over 30% higher than here.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Last time I looked 60% of Buell sales aren't in America.


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I mean there are japanese bikes here and you can buy every part you could possibly think of at little to nothing.




Name a single part please, I love how a single plastic faring for my Suzuki GS500F was $522, yet I can get a full set of firebolt plastics for the same price. It costed me another $600 in parts alone for the fork tubes on that bike, not even the rest of the fork! You can get whole forks for a Buell for about the same.


Also you need to factor in production, Honda builds more bikes in a day than Buell does in a year. That would help bring down prices, but still they cost more than Buell parts.
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Name a single part please



Well if you pick up basically any japanese moto mag. and look in the back you will see GSXR,R1,R6,CBR..... parts maybe not all parts but alot of parts and definitely race body kits cheap.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh you mean aftermarket garbage? You can get the same $5 LED tail light lens for your XB, but don't be too thrilled with the results.

Nothing from American Sport Bike is "cheap", but nothing there is garbage either.
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Point 1: when I started buying Buell parts, I was blown away by the realization that the parts were cheaper than my race parts cost 25 years ago.

Point 2: IIRC, Japan doesn't sell their bikes over 750cc to their domestic market. They, and the parts, are all marketed to NA and Eu.

Point 3: Around here, my metric bike friends complain about waiting for essential parts the same as you do, I only know one other Buell owner and we don't seem to have a real problem with getting parts.
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh you mean aftermarket garbage?



Well if you think this is aftermarket garbage then I guess so.http://www.trojan-horse.co.uk/


Just because something is not made by buell doesent make it garbage.Is drummer garbage,xblights,preeng,darkhorsemoto,specialops.. ..........But at least their in america at least I think they all are....
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Bads1
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well 5 of the aftermarket company's you just listed got there start basically right here on the BadWeb. Gixxers and the like are built by the 100's of thousands. Were as your buell is under 12,000 total. That drives the price of the aftermarket parts through the roof in price.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look at the Buell/Japanese ratio.
It's easy to see Japanese well out number Buells.
There were less than 5000 XBs built in 2003.
Not much of a market for extra parts.
Take the fact that more Buells are overseas and there you have it.
If there were a market here in the states, there would be parts, pure and simple.
Buells (like it are not) aren't really popular, it is changing, but slowly.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

Well if you think this is aftermarket garbage then I guess so.http://www.trojan-horse.co.uk/




You must of missed the line about American Sport Bike. 99% of the crap in those magazines are indeed, crap.

Again you failed to specify something specific, so I had to go out on a limb for comparisons.

Like states by me and others before, stuff for Buells is more likely hand made and is in lower production numbers, so that will raise the price. If you want cheap mass produced garbage, there is plenty of it on eBay.
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Again you failed to specify something specific

What do you want year, make, model, part number, price, specific measurements,......
I said Well if you pick up basically any japanese moto mag. and look in the back you will see GSXR,R1,R6,CBR..... parts maybe not all parts but alot of parts and definitely race body kits cheap.

I dont have specific parts because I dont have a jap bike nor do I care what they have I was just using it as a comparison.

The Suzuki GS500F is like a beginner sport bike and not that popular so maybe its like Bads1 and glitch said about not alot of them so parts cost more.pretty much what glitch said I guess

It's easy to see Japanese well out number Buells.
There were less than 5000 XBs built in 2003.
Not much of a market for extra parts.
Take the fact that more Buells are overseas and there you have it.
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Andymnelson
Posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 11:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok, so without going into brand loyalty drivel like most of the above posts (which, BTW, I am completely brand loyal...3 Buells (well I just sold 1, so 2 as of this morning) in my garage), let me say that you point is extremely valid.

Yes, factory parts are reasonably priced, but that wasn't your question, was it?

Here is the real answer to your question: North Americans do not have the "street fighter" bike scene that exists over seas. Period. It is truly a phenomenon over there like none other. Add that to the apparently larger overseas sales numbers, and you can see why: The parts are where the buyers are.
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Teddagreek
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 02:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just order from across the pond...
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 03:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just order from across the pond...

Thats what ill have to do unfortunately.
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Caféelite
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys can afford aftermarket parts?
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Fastxb12r
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice Caféelite well with our economy I doubt many are spending as much money on modding as they once did.While I am not rich I am doing good enough to get some of the things I want.Once im done with school I will be good since im getting in the medical field its a steady business people always get hurt and sick.But thats down the road.....
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Js_buell
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have to agree with fastxb in the fact that if you look at exhaust for example yes we can get nice ones here like the Drummer, spec ops,Jardine and d&d, I probably miss some but there is a shit load more available oversea and it will cost a lot more to get it here like the full Termignioni exhaust ect. Maybe I wasn't looking far enough but it seem that there is lot more parts available oversea then here. I'm fine with the mods I want because I can get it all here like I got my drummer but for people that wants some stuff more specific I guess it can be harder.
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Augustus74
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just makes a unique bike even more so.
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Old_man
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I found many of the replacement parts for my Buell to be reasonably priced at the dealer.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ok now I see what you are getting at, the wording of your first post threw me off. There are plenty of bad ass parts made in America, and plenty more made overseas. Given how the US only makes up a small population of the planet, and we have a smaller ratio of motorcycles to cars, you will be more likely to find the part you want from a foreign manufacturer. Most of the foreign parts are also sold by American distributors, so getting your hands on them shouldn't be an issue.

Now regarding prices, you will see the Buell stuff from one company is comparable to stuff for another bike. For example, Jardine lists the price of the RT1 slipon exhaust for our bikes for $350. For a 2005 Kawi ZX6R, it is $412, but the Kawi requires a fender bracket thats included.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


quote:

You guys can afford aftermarket parts?



Other than my frame and motor internals, just about nothing on my bike is stock. I lost count of how many paychecks I have blown on in one order from American Sport Bike or my dealer : D
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Wheelybueller
Posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Fastxb12r"
Do you have metric bike accessory envy?
Just asking.
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