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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 01:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This does not feel good at all... I was at the drag strip doin what we do and my clutch system starts playing games with me. First run went fine; did a burn out and got a good run. Second run, I missed a shift, not a problem human error. third run went good, it did take more effort for me to do a burnout, it just didnt want to break loose. Third run good, on the way to get the time slip.. shifting through the gears I noticed that the clutch cable all of a sudden got real tight. At the lever there is usuallya lot of slack and you can wobble the lever all day. Now the cable magically is strung tight, and therefore the lever is wedged right up. I dont get it one bit, its pulled so much that the clutch is semi-disengauged. talking around, many people say "its the oil, let the bike cool down".... ok, sure.. that could be it, last time i was here I ran penzoil, maybe this harley lube isnt up to par, right... 40 or so minutes have gone by, and i believe the bike has cooled down. checking the cable/lever.. it still is not right, so I start driving around the docks and find some tools from a local and get re-adjust the cable to suit fit. there is plenty of slack in the line, and the clutch seems to be in order as i take it for a small stroll around the parking lot. Race.. run four, no burnout. Pulls good in first gear, second gear its getting loose towards the topend, third there is definately some slippage in the drive, and fourth too. max out to throttle at that rpm i should of been going fast, my mph was 89 at the line.

MY clutch is slipping way too much, HELP!!!!

what would cause the cable to suddenly get so taught?

(Message edited by ochoa0042 on May 14, 2009)
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Arcticktm
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 12:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Clutch cable free play decreases as the clutch pack wears.
This can happen VERY QUICKLY (in moments) if you are frying your clutch.
Happened to me on my '06 XB12X doing a bunch of low speed riding off-pavement, before I lowered my gearing.
I could feel the free play going away as I held the lever, on a long, gradual uphill.
Clutch plates were all fried, and way below service limits.
New clutch pack, and I was back on the road.
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Clutchless
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1

one pass on the drag strip with a miss-adjusted clutch can fry every one of those disks. Actually you prolly could loose them half way down the 1/4 mile. those bad boys will heat up real fast.

might wanna take that apart and check before you do anymore launches....or riding for that matter. you dont want any more that clutch problems when dealing with drivetrain/tranny on your xb.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 04:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ok well im going to have to check the bastard, this was what i didnt want to hear but had it comming. the thing is that I never had this problem before at the raceway.. my guess its that the oil had some evil work, im going to also put a different oil in the primary now and need some reccomendations that will work with the primary please
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

opening up the inspection cover underneith the plate there is a white goop residue. what could this be? friction plate residue? broken down oil? jizz?
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

alright to i took it for a spin, i have added about 1/8quart of some oil i used in my engine, took it for a few spins, and gradually the clutch started to get better. it was slipping at first and made its way back to normal. not sure if its fully fixed, but since the majority said that the problem was the oil, i will have to go with that. I have recently replaced the plated with a barnett plate kit. MY guess is that the harley oil couldnt take the enviornment's tempatures and broke down to result with this white goop which might be too slippery.

What are the factory reccomended oils that I can use in the primary?
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Iamarchangel
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 05:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

White goop is usually indicative of a water leak??
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Lonexb
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1^
make sure the rubber boot that covers the adjuster on the clutch cable is on right. that's how water was getting in on my bike.
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Clutchless
Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+2 white goop = water

more like condensation, or like sweat on the inside of a water bottle that sits in the car while you run inside the store and it gets hot be cause it builds heat and has no way to bleed off the heat, so moisture forms.

park the bike in the shade, store in dry conditions, use quality oil, change frequently ( i get bored and change my oil, seriously....its only like 25 bucks....and no white goop : ) )

definately check that clutch adjuster boot like lonexb says, happens a lot.

and how does the barnett plate kit work out? feel any noticeable difference in the pull at the lever?
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Fast1075
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 12:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When that barnett kit takes a dump...look up Energy One clutches...use their extra plate kit...with hd spring diaphragm.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and how does the barnett plate kit work out? feel any noticeable difference in the pull at the lever?

I couldnt tell you anything about, I dunno
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Sokota
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

skip the burnout show [boo], and save the clutch abuse for the actual launch
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, May 15, 2009 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 will do
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