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Augustus74
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 12:48 am: |
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Looking to get a used XBR12. Is there much difference from year to year? Most interested in any drivetrain/suspension differences? Like I said, used, so maybe '04-'07. |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 12:56 am: |
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I know in the later years there were some improvements to the engine in terms of durabililty and oil cooling, not sure when that happened. Also there was a switch somewhere in your years I believe to a better smoother shifting transmission. Dont know about suspension but I believe it was updated at some point. |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 01:15 am: |
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04 was the first year XB12 05 Different forks? (Switched from 41mm to 43mm), A few minor changes 06 New smoother transmission, air intake relocated, larger capacity frame, new swingarm design. A few more minor changes 07 New higher flow airbox. More minor changes. 08 Significant changes to the motor, whole press release for that. more minor tweaks. 09 Everything is blacked out, new stronger belt, more minor changes. |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 01:17 am: |
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Oh yea, color availability changed every year. |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 01:23 am: |
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What are the specifics to the stronger belt in 09? Havent heard about that... Imo you should buy new just for the blacked out look . Oh and I know it doesnt matter as you are not looking into 09's but they also got the new brakes (ZTL2?) from the 1125R, 8 piston I believe... |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 01:29 am: |
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Yep thats right ZTL2 on the 09 XB12SS and SCG. XB9 and Uly ppl have to suffer
quote:New on Buell Streetfighters for 2009 Blacked-Out Component Styling – To reinforce the aggressive styling of the Buell Streetfighter line, new black finishes are applied to the frame, swingarm, engine, fork tubes, triple clamps, brake calipers and other components. ZTL2 Front Brake – XB Lightning models powered by the 1203 Thunderstorm engine are now equipped with the ZTL2 front brake. The eight-piston caliper design offers a larger pad surface, optimizes heat-dissipation capability and allows even pressure distribution over each of the four pads in the caliper. A single 375 mm stainless steel rotor mounted directly to the wheel rim produces outstanding stopping power, weighs less than a dual-disc system, and permits the use of a very lightweight front wheel that helps reduce steering inertia and unsprung weight. Improved Drive Belt – A new Veyance Hibrex drive belt with Flexten Plus technology, based on the belt developed for the Buell 1125R, is stronger and more durable than the previous drive belt.
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Swordsman
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 09:38 am: |
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The 2008 Ss suspension got changed from all the previous Ss models. It now uses the discontinued TT suspension, which is rumored to be the best all round of any model. ~SM |
Spacecapsule1
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 09:42 am: |
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What makes the TT suspension better? I never really understood that.... It has more travel but other than that, what else? |
Swordsman
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 09:43 am: |
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Dunno, I've never ridden one. But there were a bunch of posts when it first came out, and those that did ride it just RAVED about it. I think Danger Dave was one. Might ask him. ~SM |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 09:56 am: |
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Ride one and see |
Jraice
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 10:12 am: |
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And this is one of the reasons I am thinking I should get the XB12Ss over the XB12Scg! I am 5'10" so either would be fine, probably do a city x seat on the SCG to get it a little higher, or a lower seat on the Ss to get it a light lower so in the end same height for me... Ss has better suspension from what you guys are saying but is the difference enough to give up that sweet SCG short wheelbase |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 10:23 am: |
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quote:but is the difference enough to give up that sweet SCG short wheelbase
Since you are obsessing over the short wheelbase, take a look at one of these:
48" |
Spacecapsule1
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 10:25 am: |
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......I own one. A TT that is. The question remains..... |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 10:31 am: |
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Want to sell me your suspension then? Have you at least set it up properly? I demoed the STT, best suspension ever. I have been thinking of getting it for my 06 SS. |
Spacecapsule1
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 10:43 am: |
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yes yes its set up per the book. the question is: what makes it so much better that the lowly pre-09 ss suspension, besides the extra travel? nope. not for sell. (Message edited by spacecapsule1 on March 05, 2009) |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 02:54 pm: |
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More magic beans in it? |
Boltrider
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 03:34 pm: |
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IMO the difference in road feel between the various suspension offerings is negligible. All the XB's handle very well. |
Old_man
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 03:36 pm: |
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Suspension travel IS important. |
Boltrider
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 03:38 pm: |
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With the exception of travel |
Spacecapsule1
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 06:42 pm: |
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there you have it! suspension travel it is! case closed. |
Froggy
| Posted on Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 07:54 pm: |
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Must be why the XB12X is so freaking awesome |
Skinstains
| Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 12:43 am: |
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Put some Ohlins on it fore and aft. Now you're talking. It'll only set you back like $2500. |
Diablobrian
| Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 07:25 am: |
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The TT suspension is different than any of the other Buells. The forks in particular are a different model with different internals that make all of the difference in the world. |
Jraice
| Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 09:41 am: |
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Here we go! Its just like my pet peeve in politics, talk talk talk (Change change change) but what are you actually going to do? I get it, the TT is different but when I ride the thing, what will I notice! |
Froggy
| Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:23 am: |
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quote:I get it, the TT is different but when I ride the thing, what will I notice!
You remember the first time you did "it"? Same thing. Oh wait your 17, nevermind |
Spacecapsule1
| Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:45 am: |
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i dont like the way the uly looks.... too tall. so much soace between the wheels and the rest of the bike. sure its comfy, but pretty it isn't! the Scg is best looking XB, i think. |
Ekass13
| Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:25 am: |
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Froggy, very funny. One thing I'ed like to chime in about is the 03-05 hand made swing arms, and as far as better trans post 05, not true. Maybe brand new, but not after break in. |
Cbig
| Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 03:47 pm: |
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The xb12stt I rode suspension was awesome. Properly set up it took the square edged impacts like potholes, 1-2 inch bumps much better than the other xb's. It did not wallow as much as the Ulysses at stop lights or on hard acceleration. Maybe it is the dirt bike rider in me - but I noticed. I do agree the best suspension of the Buell line. |
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