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Valiant_duke
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 08:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Alright, so here is the situation...
I rerouted the breather hoses and ran a main hose down in-front of oil cooler.
On the end of the hose I put a cap, so that it wouldn't spurt crap all over the bike...
A note.. the hose is t'ed and there is a breather filter in the air intake box.

So i uncapped the hose tonight and i was expecting to have sludge come out. well nothing but water (crystal clear) poured out.
I think that the water that has accumulated is merely condensation, but I would like to hear your thoughts and see what I should do.
I think that I would rather have the water in the hose, then in my engine.

Thanks,
Alex
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Ustorque
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

it's very normal it's condensation from the motor, wait till it's humid out in the summer you'll be amazed. now aren't you glad you're not putting that back in your motor!

i have a 16 mile ride to work, during the summer i can easily fill my catch can on the way into work if it's humid out. i have found that the more spoogy type shit comes out when the outside air is dryer and the bike has been running for a longer period of time.

(Message edited by ustorque on February 02, 2009)
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Skinstains
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 on the condensate.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, February 02, 2009 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

dukedood, you seem to have figured out how to get pure distilled water from a v-twin engine. Think of the possibilities! It could be real handy in a survival situation like out on death valley maybe. Kinda gives a new meaning to
"ride to live".

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Valiant_duke
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 01:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Panhead... Great thinking... I do live in AZ! Keep that in mind next time i go ride out in the desert... who needs a camelback? lol

So every thinks that is it ok/normal?
So during the *summer* it should "oil"up and do what I thought it would collect?
Thanks!
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 10:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It's not so much about summer and winter as it is about temp differences and humidity.
It seems to me that your setup is much more efficient at removing water from the engine than most. I would love to learn more about your setup. Specifics about your routing, tubing diameter, lengths and maybe even some pics if you could swing it.
Dan.
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Moosestang
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 11:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I've only gotten water out of mine as well. All I did was cut down the breather hose for the front cylinder, then T the two together so that the single hose points towards the rear. I ran that hose through the hole in the frame where the trans vent hose comes out then put another T in the area of the rear shock. Ran one line up over the rear shock and ended it near the rear brake reservoir and then one down to a bottle beside the swing arm.

So far I haven't seen any oil, not even a hint mixed with the water, but I did get a little oil in the airbox. There is probably some oily residue in the line closer to the heads, but it doesn't make it down to my bottle.

(Message edited by moosestang on February 04, 2009)
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Valiant_duke
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Moose,
so you have the same dilemma?
Now my routing is way simpler, but we are getting the same result... water.
Now i haven't checked my airbox, but it would be virtually impossible for oil to get in there, with the way that I have it set up.

One thing I was really rather shocked at was the pressure that the hose was emitting. I took the cap of the end, and started the bike up to blow the rest of the condensation out (which of course was crystal clear) and the hose acted as if it was on the end of a air compressor as the motor clunked away. I am definitely glad that I put a breather filter in the system to relieve all the pressure.

Anywho thanks for the input and reassurance that nothing is really wrong.
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Ustorque
Posted on Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

here's a few shots of breather spooge for ya....as you can see, your not gonna get a thick oily goop it's the milky watery type.







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U4euh
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 11:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I can see the machine head riding next to you.
"Damn he has an air compressor on that bike, but it sounds like a Harley,


I used the see thru fuel filter from Russell. Never had enough show to worry about. I wonder why. Is everyone running different oil? I strictly use Mobil1 Synthetic 20w-50.
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Valiant_duke
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 05:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ustorque, I can see what you are saying, just the fluid that comes out of mine is crystal clear. I was thinking that the stuff these things are supposed to collect is murky and "oily."
I have no oil, but at least i am taking water out of the system.
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Moosestang
Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm using valvoline vr1 20w50. I didn't mean I get oil in the airbox now, I meant before the breather reroute, I would get oil on the top of the inner airbox.
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Suzukigs
Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just leave the breather stock, it doesn't hurt anything to burn off the condensation. Unless you're smarter than the guys that spent millions designing, testing, refining and building the bikes, that is.
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