| Author | Message | ||
     Nik |
One of the exhaust studs on my front cylinder sheared off flush with the head at random. Would anyone be willing to loan me the tool? I'm in San Diego. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
hum.... didnt that just happen to another bike not too long ago...? | ||
| Buelltroll |
Mine is sitting in the garage with the same thing  | ||
| Vortec57 |
happened to mine a bit ago as well. the drilling jig tool is awesome! I borrowed one from a great source, I truely appreciate them (thanks again dan and co.) | ||
| Reepicheep |
I tried to build my own. It *almost* worked. Buy or borrow the tool... | ||
| Buelltroll |
It IS covered under warranty | ||
| Nik |
My warranty ran out way long ago... | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
whats a drilling jig tool ? I thought that was for building furniture, biscut joints and the like. | ||
| Nik |
http://www.americansportbike.com/shoponline/ccp0-p rodshow/16029.html | ||
| Duff24 |
$95 for that thing! Yeah and monkeys will fly outta my ass! | ||
| Nillaice |
the other option is a 'jims tool'. but i've never heard of one or seen one. only heard about it on here. either is better than just 'eye-balling' it. that'd really suck if you messed up, and had to pull off the jug.... | ||
| Jeffroj |
That is the Jims tool. | ||
| Nillaice |
 ooooohhhh.... thanks, Jeffroj. i feel like i've been looking for my glasses when they've been on my head the whole time. don't i feel crunchy... | ||
| Jlnance |
$95 for that thing! Yeah and monkeys will fly outta my ass! I didn't use the Jims tool. $130 for Cyclerama to fix the head I head I screwed up. $50 for a top end gasket kit. 3 months of down time. But perhaps you're better with a drill than I am. | ||
| Xxxh00liganxxx |
fix it yourself...center punch...a drill...maybe a set of extractors...just take your time I HAVE NEVER used any kind of jig to fix this kind of stuff! | ||
| Duff24 |
I just used the header flange to line up the holes.... | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
thanks nik | ||
| Nik |
I drove up to Ontario today and bought one made by "George's Garage" for a bit less than Jim's tool. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Duff... hopefully one of those monkeys has an EDM (Electro Static Discharge) machine with 'em, as you will need it to get the easy out that you broke back out of the head.  Seriously, you *can* do it without the tool. I have twice. Both times, my thought at the end of the job was that I was a total &*&^@$$ for not just buying the stupid tool. When you don't take our advice, and you break off the easy out, the next best bet is the bullet shaped tungsten carbide dremel bits. They are about $20 each, you will probably need two. Thats $40. The easy out was probably $20, and the heli coil kit will be another $40. Making sense yet? | ||
| Vortec57 |
I jacked around for a week trying to do it without a tool. Finally broke down and was ready to buy one, but found one to borrow. Within 15 minutes I was done drilling it out, chased it with my tap and had my new stud in. The tool is TOTALLY worth the price, even if you use it once. | ||
| Nillaice |
i've found that if you wait until midnight the cat skin comes off alot easier. | ||
| Duff24 |
Actually what I ended up doing is welding a nut to the broken stud (even though it was broken off flush with the head), letting it cool for a minute then slowly backing it out. Simple as can be. | ||
| Nik |
Well I got it done today. It wasn't quite as easy as Vortec had it. On the last part the drill bit broke because it jammed on the end of the old stud which had broken loose. So I had to fish out the broken drill bit and the loose stud end. | ||
| Nillaice |
no heli-coil? sound like a super success to me!!  | ||
| Nik |
Nope, no helicoil. The threads weren't as tight as stock (as expected, stock is a bit of an interference fit) so I coated the threads in JB weld before inserting the stud. Gotta love that stuff... A critique of the tool though... It's a very nice anodized CNC'd aluminum piece, and priced accordingly. There's dozens of ways to make a tool just as functional for less. I'll be making one for another bike I have the same problem with (but haven't bothered to fix because I'm loving the Buell way too much to bother.) and it won't be pretty, but it will be precise, functional and about half the price. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Good news Nik! I tried building my own version of the tool as well. Where mine went wrong was that i had no way to lock it in position centered on the exhaust port, and was counting on "the other bolt" to hold it in place. It walked on me, and created problems, and was hard to line up as I had a taller drill guide welded on and could not see to line it up. | ||
| Nautique4life |
+2 for what Reepi said. I've had the unfortunate reason to use the Jims drill guide twice myself. I'm nothing more than a shadetree mechanic at best, so I thought I was going to ef up something. But using the Jims tool was a breeze. A few beers, the right lube, a crash course with a tap and die set later, you're good to go. | ||
| Wantxbr |
Get the Drill Plate from American Sport Bike its more than worth it. Comes with the Drill Bit and the Tool will guide the Bit for you. Its a Brainless task to use this tool. Save yourself the headache. Only other tool you'll need is a tap, 5/16-18. Buy another stud and nut or just use a bolt. If you need them, instructions come with the tool. (Message edited by Wantxbr on January 28, 2009) | ||
| Xxxh00liganxxx |
heli coils suck go with time sert! | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
Many thanks, Xxxh00liganxxx! I had never heard of Time-Serts, but they do look like a superior product, especially for shallow holes, like the primary case cover which is improperly designed as regards the fasteners for the inspection ports, and has threads that often strip. Here is their URL for guys like me who were not in the know. http://www.timesert.com/  |
