| Author | Message | ||
     Ethanb1984 |
I have a 2006 XB12R with full micron exhaust, race ecm, direct link. I want more power. I want to do cams, head work, high compression all at once. Is this feasible? I work for Harley and I know it already has 550 cams and the stock heads are notorious for good flow but i need more power! I can wax an R6 and almost anything else but GSX1300R and R1. I am determined to beat them. How much is an XBRR motor and will it fit in my bike? Please help me! | ||
| Boltrider |
Brand new XBRR motor is about 18 grand. And yes they fit. It is one NASTY motor. Buell has them in their catalog, but you need a current race license to buy one. You could check with some of the sponsors on here about building a custom motor. | ||
| Firebolt020283 |
try revolution performance, Hals speed shop, johnson engine technology, or cycle rama. Those are the bad web sponsors that deal with engine mods like that. | ||
| Slaughter |
Wrong battle, wrong war. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
get off the airport tarmac, find some curves, in stock trim, you will be surprised at who is playing catch up. | ||
| Tommy5144 |
I understand what ethan is saying....twisties are nice...and yes the XB's are MONSTERS on the backroads, i regularly am at the head of a pack of litre jap bikes on the backroads in maryland.....but why not have the best of both worlds? Why not try to run aroudn with them on the highway as well as the backroads? | ||
| Petebueller |
You could get more HP with a dyno tune or a map from someone like American Sport Bike that is for a Micron. The Race ECM is tuned to the Race muffler and the Race muffler does not have the strength of the Micron in the low and mid range. If you do get more HP from engine work you need to work out how to use it. With the Micron you can hit the rev limiter really quickly, and then it's all over. With a stronger motor that doesn't rev a lot higher it is more of the same | ||
| Rocketsprink |
get a 1125 and be done with it then. what slaughter said. you picked the wrong bike it that is your goal, | ||
| Bombardier |
+1 slaughter and rocketsprink. These things have more low down grunt than a pig factory and more again if you go to the shops mentioned above. Anyone can go fast in straight line. These bikes make you better in the things that matter - corners. Petebueller has developed a larger primary sprocket that will get you more top end speed. Might be what you are looking for in combination with some engine mods. | ||
| Jlnance |
 Ask for Pammy. | ||
| Diablobrian |
As others have said anyone can pull the trigger on one of the other bikes mentioned and go fast in a straight line. If that is your goal you need to choose the proper tool for that job. I love my Buell, it has advantages and dis-advantages, top end speed is not a Buell forte. You can indeed build it to dominate your local curves, but the super slab is best left to the Hayabusa etc. You wouldn't take on an indy car with a top fuel dragster or vice versa. Both are good at what they do, but neither can compete in the other's arena. If you want to challenge the top end of a modern in-line 4 you need to bring an In-line 4, or an ***under square, water cooled*** twin with greater displacement to the fight. Even with the Ducati 1198 you wouldn't try to take on an a Hayabusa with the limiter bypassed, unless you enjoy losing that is. The grass is plenty green on this side of the fence. When comparing our bikes to the Japanese imports you are best off looking at where they get classified in racing.... with the SV suzukis, air cooled ducatis etc. Not in the superbike class, racing a liter bike with your Buell on a straight strip of pavement is like bringing a knife to a gun fight. I'm not some anti-Buell nay-sayer. I have worked the pits on a Buell race team and ride a fairly impressive street Buell. You can build you bike to run very quickly, but you need to be realistic when considering building an undersquare, 4 valve, single crank pin air-cooled twin to try to compete with oversquare, 16 valve, down draft head, water- cooled multi-cylinder sport bike. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
GSX1300R and R1. I am determined to beat them Take the b!t@hes to the canyons. If they can only beat you in a straight line, then they truly are your b!t@hes. | ||
| Bads1 |
You can wax a R6 or anything else but 1300 0r R1??? Where on a straight away??? Because an R6 will can the 12 badly. And GSXR 750 will go to lunch and wait for you. You have a great bike but if you want to go R1 fast.... that will never happen with that platform. Buy a 1125R if you wanna go faster. If wanna beat a Busa. Buy a Busa. | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
Because an R6 will can the 12 badly. And GSXR 750 will go to lunch and wait for you I disagree, my friend. In a straight stop light to stop light, the 12 will eat them up. start getting over 100 and they will catch up and pass you.. but we take the corners and the stop light fun. let them have the 150mph straights... | ||
| Bads1 |
Don't think the R6 can't carve a corner faster you have another thing coming. Those bike's are just as good or better. I've been riding Buell's for 10 years now and I will in the future. But to say things like that are wrong. A stop to stop light race is nothing. | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
HD Employee from Neenah? That's a long commute. Given the same rider on both the R6 and XB12. It's a horse a piece in the turns, the straights? Forget it, the R6 will walk all over you, especially if its running PCIII and a good aftermarket. Its a fast, nible machine. I rode an 08 last august, I couldn't believe how nice of a bike it is. No wonder it's been in the Yamaha stable for as long as it has, and it keeps getting better. (Message edited by Buellinachinashop on January 14, 2009) | ||
| 2008xb12scg |
But to say things like that are wrong. A stop to stop light race is nothing. As far as being wrong, my limited experience and my big mouth running together again. But I will say my understanding was that the Buells handle better, not true? Maybe a matter of opinion? As far as the stop light stuff mattering, to some it does, others not so much. Me I'm gonna shut up and go ride before I eat my whole foot. | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
has the XBRR won any big league races??? | ||
| Glitch |
1125R | ||
| Sloppy |
Sorry folks, you can not change physics by running a different name on the engine. For two engines with the same displacement, the one with the most cylinders will always have the capability to make more power... As a tuner once taught me, "airflow can't read the name on the valvecover, son..." Ever wonder why in racing that twins get "handicaps" so they can be competative with 4 cylinders? Now you know. To figure out what your engine is comparable to, multiply your displacement by the redline of your engine. 1200cc * 7000 rpm = 8.4 M = 600cc * 14000 rpm. Now you see why you can keep up with 600cc, but the 1,000's will always be able to blow you away. Like posted before - wrong tool for the war. | ||
| Buford |
Kit being developed here: http://www.boostisgood.com/ | ||
| Bads1 |
Still won't help. | ||
| No_rice |
ericz on his turbo xb12 could out run buellgators busa all the way to redline(140ish) and from what bg said the buell had to be sitting at the limiter for a bit for the busa to catch up every time. and that is on minimal boost. he said wax, but not where or for how long. you know how many inlines and yes some were liters that couldnt out run my 9 down the front straight of road america(and many were past) over and over. there are plenty on here that have seen it or were the one getting climbed on by a poor little 9. anything is do able. | ||
| Petebueller |
Given the same rider on both the R6 and XB12. It's a horse a piece in the turns, the straights? Forget it, the R6 will walk all over you, especially if its running PCIII and a good aftermarket. Its a fast, nible machine. I rode an 08 last august, I couldn't believe how nice of a bike it is. No wonder it's been in the Yamaha stable for as long as it has, and it keeps getting better. The 2008 R6 is a fantastic machine. Much better than the 2007. The 2008 is not a windup toy and it and the XB are in a different league for power. Comparing corner speeds is probably comparing riders (but I trust the XB more in the wet). I don't think you can't multiply the RPM by the displacement for a comparison. I've heard that you can get even more by changing to the R1 Velocity Stack. It is unlikely however that I will move from BadWeb to a Suzuki forum. It is not a case of the Firebolt being good enough for me. There is not another bike I would rather own. | ||
| Bads1 |
Rice, Your telling me that your nine with out the nos out ran liter bikes down the straight??? Man you have been putting the wrong powdered sugar on your corn flakes my friend. If that was the case you were running against alot of guys that are afraid to turn the throttle WFO on there inlines. The straight up hill takes the beath out of a XB and the straight is long enough to bump the redline. A liter bike pulls 170 out there constantly. Remember that track is a hour away from me. I see alot over there. That story your telling me I've seen but at bed time. | ||
| Cecil1 |
A stop to stop light race is nothing. Why is a stop to stop light race nothing? That is (unfortunately) where most of us ride. | ||
| B00stzx3 |
My buddy's ridden alott Gixxers, CBRS, etc. he said the sheer accelration from standstill on my XB9R was scary as hell. I wish I could smoke up some Gixxer1000s but eh, torque is funner. Get the 1125R, it'll be my next bike. Then put it to some imports. Except the 1098  | ||
| Ochoa0042 |
That is (unfortunately) where most of us ride. Not I, said this bueller | ||
| Bads1 |
Why is a stop to stop light race nothing? Usually less then 1/8 th. Hell an R1 would never leave 2nd gear. | ||
| New12r |
Usually less then 1/8 th. Hell an R1 would never leave 1st gear. Fixed it for ya |
