| Author | Message | ||
     Misato |
check this out http://www.americanthunderbike.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=00 0333 | ||
| Prof_stack |
For those who can't read it: I just came from my local Buell Dealer and the service guys were all talking about the 2005 Firebolt that you will be able to get with the V-ROD motor. They said Buell has been testing it for almost two years and it will be awesome. It will make between 115-120 hp and it will be about a $2000 option and that the MSRP will be around $12,999 plus assembly. They said that you will still be able to order the XB9 and XB12 if you want and with no major changes for next year. Also that Buell is going to lower the price of the air cooled models (Lightning and Firebolts) between $750 and $1000 again for 2005. Information should be coming out about the new bike in a couple of months. Seems like well worth a couple grand to get around 20-25 more hp. When i asked how they knew so much about the new Firebolt, one of the guys in service has a cousin who works for Buell R&D. He told me the new Firebolt will be 10 times better than the 2004 and it`ll be worth waiting a few months to find out. | ||
| Hardluckxb |
I will assume this option will be available on the Lightning too? YeeFuckinHaw! | ||
| M1combat |
I am assuming one of two things. #1 - Hogwash #2 - They reduced the overall size of the engine and it revs farther than the V-Rod model. I'll hopefully (if all goes well) have my XB12 paid off by mid 05... If #2 is correct, there's my next toy  . Maybe I'll trade the 12 for it, but probably not. I'll have to keep it around for my friends to ride . | ||
| Misato |
yeah, I dont know about that. I'll believe it when I see it. | ||
| Lake_bueller |
Here we go again....more speculation with no hard evidence. However......I'm about due for another bike  | ||
| Misato |
I know. I've heard it all before | ||
| Prof_stack |
An XB with a V-Rod motor would not make for a better handling motorcycle. I've ridden the V-Rod and liked the motor a lot, but personally wouldn't be interested in those extra ponies and higher rpm's. But the idea of an optional motor is intruiging. | ||
| Helga |
Well, great news but now I am trying to recalculate all dues we need to pay for XB with V-rod.XB9R here in this part of world is 14 700 Euros (more or less 18 000 $).Looks that I will keep this bike forever . | ||
| Buckinfubba |
If the guy actually had a cousin who worked in R&D and like his job at all and wanted to keep it. He woulda said it even if it was true. confideniality and some new yorker pulling some ones chain..... | ||
| Kaese |
Stupid New Yorkers! I don't think the VRod will physically fit in an XB frame. Where is a photo? Maybe I can work on creating one for our enjoyment. | ||
| Dynarider |
M1, the V-rod revs to at least 9000rpms. And yes Buell has been testing the Revo powered bikes here. I seriously dont think it will be in next years lineup tho, but most likely will be here by early 2006. Kaese, the motor fits. Externally its no bigger than the present setup. The current revo motor has a few "fake" bolt on covers that are purely for asthetics & removing them is no problem. edited by dynarider on December 30, 2003 | ||
| 1320 |
Tilley's race V-rod revs closer to 11,000rpm... | ||
| Gonen60 |
If it looks like this, count me in for sure..  | ||
| Fullpower |
ok i have done some throttle heavy test abuse of a vrod. at 680 lbs, they are real sluggish below 6000 rpm, then they start pulling real hard up to 9000, where the limiter hits abruptly. if you trimmed 200 pounds off the vrod you'd have a nice cruiser. i cant imagine where you would heap the radiators on an XB. you would end up with a heavy water buffalo. vrod is also kind of a long 60 degree engine, looks kind of hard to tuck into the XB frame. interesting idea. | ||
| Fullpower |
well it sounded pretty farfetched to me, but fred the spell checker is claiming that water cooled buells are running around ON THE STREET in wisconsin. and that the vrod lump actually can fit the XB frame, or one just like it. hmmmm does sound fun, except the coolant part. | ||
| Glitch |
Is it this time of year already? | ||
| Fullpower |
gone60 nice picture. looks heavy. any idea of a curb weight on the new Buell Waterbuffalo? | ||
| Snowdave |
But will the engine fit in my tuber? | ||
| Kaese |
Wasn’t a Suzuki 2 stroker or rotary nicknamed the “Waterbuffalo”? Ok, the motor will fit. How much more does the motor weigh? I could see the radiator being inserted underneath the seat, we now hear the fan on the XB in the same location. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Suzuki GT750 two stroke, called the Kettle in Europe and the Waterbuffalo here. | ||
| Metalstorm |
I for one hope it's true. Anything that'll drop the current XBs more into my price range is a good thing! Call me backward but I really like these 45 degree pushrod motors. It's one of the major things that seperates Buells from everything else. | ||
| Wyckedflesh |
Agreed. I will stick with my Aircooled Pushrod V-Twin. Just cause I modify the hell out of it doesn't mean I don't like it, hell I modify the hell out of everything I own...Like I said before its a sickness, the only cure is IV fed Nitromethane... | ||
| Henrik |
Stupid New Yorkers! Eeeaasy there cowboy ...  Henrik | ||
| Henrik |
Ooops Henrik edited by Henrik on December 30, 2003 | ||
| Captainkirk |
IMHO the day they hang a watering trough on a Buell is the day it becomes just another bike. What's next- Saki injection?  | ||
| Dynarider |
IMHO the day they hang a watering trough on a Buell is the day it becomes just another bike. Its called progress, either jump aboard the train or get run over by it. Its that attitude that kept HD in the dark for so long. The Knuckle fans bitched & moaned when the panhead came out & then the Pan owners cried about the Shovel, the Shovel owners hate the Evo & call the owners pussies for actually having electric start. Thankfully the Evo owners have embraced the Twincam but unfortunately a few of them still refuse to accept the V-rod. It is even happening in the Buell camp, the Tube frame owners dont like the XB's & some even make posts bitching about how the XB's are taking over the forums. The XB owners could care less about the tubers. If Buell hadnt have come out with the XB I think they would have been dead over a year ago. Look boys & girls, if Buell doesnt step up to the plate with new stuff, they will end up going the way of Norton & Indian. Nothing wrong with the revo motor at all. For those who are bitching..is it Buells you like or is it the HD V-twin motor? Wouldnt make a damn difference to me if it has a revo or a ktm motor in it, still be a Buell in my eyes. Remember the very first Buell was water cooled, history always comes full circle. | ||
| Glitch |
Change is good when the change is in made for the right reason. I don't think Buell would stop selling if something changed and built something different. I don't think a VROD powered Buell would run anyone off. I would think though, if Buell did make such a machine, that it would be in a different bike. | ||
| Metalstorm |
Don't get too upset Dyna, I'm sure once we see this new bike we'll change our tune. (We usaly do when confronted with the facts) Until that day however, I'm gonna wave my patriotic Buell flag upon my soapbox and preach of the glorious days of the pushrod motor, all the while staying quite "blissfully ignorant" of the fact that Buell is indeed, taking large strides toward the future.  I think it is human nature to get one's mind set a certain way. You start to think of Harleys as a certain "type" and Buells as a certain "type". When we hear about something new it is often hard to overcome one's "mindset" till it is actually seen and felt. Once this bike is released I'm sure alot of folk will come around. I am seriously looking forward to it. I don't want one (I really do prefer the ol' pushrod but that's just my tastes) but it sounds pretty cool to me and it might open the doors to potential Buellers like the XB9&12 have. Just as long as they keep the pushrod engine around a few more years. (or more to the point: push rod engine parts) | ||
| Spiderman |
LMAO you can really tell when winter sets in around the motorcycle comunity. |
