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Whitexc
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 06:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I went and got a Carquest filter and gave him the Bosch #. He gave me a Wix, which is ok but the # is 85394 with the Wix # being 51394...whats the deal??? Is it the right one? Thanks.
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Socalbueller
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 07:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That sounds like the right part # I buy the napa gold filters which are Wix and the napa part # is 1394 for the Buell.
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Whitexc
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

After some digging on the net....I think it is the correct one. I am going to tackle the dreaded oil change before the winter storage deal....uhhhhg!
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dreaded oil change??? I'm getting ready to do it for the first time... what's so dreaded about it?
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yeah, it's the worst 10 minutes you'll ever spend extending the life of your ride.
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

OMG it is so horrible! Last time I did it, black fluids were leaking out my engine into a strategically placed bucket. Then I had to twist on some bolts to plug up the holes and put oil back in the bike to replace the leaked fluids. It was horrific, now I got to figure out what the yellow light on the dash and the F error on my odometer mean...
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Rah7777777
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Its easy!


I highly suggest WIX filters!

Run some Mobil 1 and a wix filter and you have a recipe for GREAT internal lubrication :-)

Which greatly lowers the odds of something going....BANG and then you cry....
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Hogs
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So are these carquest wix numbers 100 percent the same as buells.... no worries and just wonder the correct part numbers for car quest or napa for that matter? Thanks
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Zane
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not trying to start a oil flame war here.

Is there that big a difference in the Mobile 1 Auto Formula and the M/C version? I'm running the auto formula in the engine and most likely will run it in the tranny when it's time to change out that oil. Is Auto Formula an issue or is this an mountain/mole hill kind of thing?
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm with this guy ^

What's the difference between the auto and M/C mobil 1 oil?
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Damnut
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oil filters for Buell XB

ACDelco # UPF1233
Amsoil SDF10, EA009, EA010 (1/2”longer=more oil)
Bosch # 3311
Car Quest 85394
Champion # C138
Fram # PH4967
HD # 63806-004 or 00y?
HiFloFiltro #HF177
K&N # hp-1003, KN-177
Mighty # m4477
Napa # 1394
Mobil 1 # M1-103
Motorcraft # FL836
Penzoil # pz39
Purolator # L14476
STP # S4967
Valvoline # vo40
Wal-Mart Super Tech # ST4967
Wix # 51394
Union Sangyo[OEM Toyota Mfg]#C-170
SCOTTS PERFORMANCE BILLET OIL FILTER
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Ustorque
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 10:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i knew you'd show up with the list!
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are the filters in that list equivalent filters or are they filters that fit?
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Sloppy
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Zane:
Mountain / Molehill thing. Here's the deal:

If your engine REQUIRES a JASO oil, then use Mobil1 V-Twin oil.

If your engine REQUIRES an API "C" oil, then use Mobil1 Extended Performance (their full synthetic brand).

So what do Buell's REQUIRE? Answer: API "C" oil.

BTW, Mobil1 Vtwin is also API "C", but it's basically designed for modern Japanese engines as they were designed to require JASO oil. Remember the Buell engine is based off of a 20+ year old design.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Sweet! So my car and my bike require the same oil! Mobil1 Full Synthetic!

Add a couple K&N air and oil filters, and I've got some happy (very enjoyable) modes of transportation!
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Froggy
Posted on Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Anyone know if any Group 7 filters fit our bikes?
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Sloppy
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike: unless you drive a mid 60's V8, it will likely be a different vis so while you can share the same brand, you'll likely not be able to share the same cap color... ; )
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Miss_doc
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 01:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you talk nice to the Carquest guy he might just break out the filter spec book and see what filters will fit for you, you might just find one that is a little longer, or one that is a little heavier duty.
M.D.
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Whitexc
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 06:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wasn't implying the oil change is bad, or difficult for that matter...hell it took about 40 minutes and that included a thorough once over of the bike and a good cleaning for the airbox and its contents. The dreaded part is this is Buffalo and the weather is turning...so not much more in the form of mo-mo riding...now it's sled time, which is ok with me cuz I love the snow!

FWIW I went with Amsoil and the Carquest filter. The Amsoil definitely made the primary smoother and quieter, now we'll have to see what it does for the engine. Thanks for all the input folks.
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Mikef5000
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 09:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mike: unless you drive a mid 60's V8, it will likely be a different vis so while you can share the same brand, you'll likely not be able to share the same cap color... ; )

Yeah, I did not specify. The car takes a full jug of 5w20. I know the bike will be heavier. I read somewhere 15w40 or something like that for the bike?
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Zane
Posted on Friday, November 07, 2008 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Sloppy,

That is the clearest explanation I’ve heard on the subject.

Good info, Thank!
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Moosestang
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 04:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That sounds like the right part # I buy the napa gold filters which are Wix and the napa part # is 1394 for the Buell.

does anyone know the specs for the napa gold filter? Is it the same spec as the wix?

the wix filter lists the bypass pressure as 8-11psi. I have a pureone on there now that is 14-18psi.

I'm going to assume 8-11psi is correct or close since the wix filter is a direct replacement for the oem.
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Bo_sox
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Question? - Why doesn't everyone just use a factory Buell oil filter? Is it the price? Or the availability? Trust me, I don't care for paying 10 bucks for a Buell oil filter either, but I figure I'll have less to worry about and it's black (big +). How much are you guys typically paying for a Wix, Napa Gold, etc. Am I missing something here or is it the price issue?
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Desmo900
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50
Formulated specifically for four-cycle V-twin engines. Key benefits of Mobil 1® V-Twin 20W-50:

* Outstanding resistance to thermal breakdown.
* Optimized for hot-running, air-cooled engines.
* Enhanced lubrication for peak horsepower.
* Protects engines against harmful dirt deposits.
* Excellent transmission performance.

This is from the Mobil oil web site. From this description it would seem V-twin is perfect for Harley engines.
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Moosestang
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

For me it is the availability. Closest dealer is 50 or so miles and I can't buy a case at a time, because my wife would think i'm crazy.

Napa is everywhere! $7.15 including tax for the napa gold.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was told that its best to use a OEM filter rather than another...T/F ? Does it matter? or make much of a difference?
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Saratoga
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 - 09:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

fleetfilter.com- I buy all the filters for my truck there.

NAPA/Wix 1394 is $4.29
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Gentleman_jon
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 06:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wal Mart is the official supplier of the Buell Cheapskate in Chief.

Mobil 1 15w50 is about 5 bucks a quart or less if you buy the five quart jugs. I get the one quart bottles just because they are a bit easier for me to handle.

The Supertech ST4967 filter is made by Champion, the OEM supplier for Buell, and cost two bucks.

Waste not, want not, my brothers.

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Aptbldr
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 07:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Wix filter is best; its gloss black can with gold accent-stripe matches my bike & its Amber wheel color... Oh, you mean how does it perform as filter? Never mind : )
I bought Wix for speed to access (first went to local H-D, naively thinking that's where I'd find parts for my 'new' Buell).
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