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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

has anyone had any problems trying to remove their front axle?

I tried to remove my front axle this evening to replace my tire. i broke the nut in the tool set first so i went to a tool shop and got a big allen wrench. it was awfully tight and after turning it 1-2 times, all i got was a snap and the axle broke in the middle. was i doing something wrong?
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Easyflier
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Uh oh! You were twisting it clockwise and it broke?
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

left hand thread, right?
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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i was twisting it counterclockwise

lefty loosy

im getting that feeling that im about to get an operator error lecture

edited by mookie on November 12, 2003
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Easyflier
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think this is where Court would say that a service manual is a good investment.
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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have the service manual... did i skip over the important part?
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Easyflier
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

'fraid so.
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Kaese
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Only the !WARNING Part.
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

page 2-8
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Fullpower
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

quote" the front axle is left hand threaded"
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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 07:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

whats the point in buying a service manual if im not going to read it properly..

doh!

id be willing to bet that the next page doesnt discussion of removal for a broken front axle due to dumbasses who dont read the directions properly

edited by mookie on November 12, 2003
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Sammigs
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 09:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Look at the left fork. See the big REMOVE with a "L" inside a nut shape and a arrow above it?

Clockwise....
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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 09:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yeah thanks. im kicking myself without anyones help. but anyways. i did notice the note below the actual instructions. why is it that one axle is regular and the other is different?

why not put the note in bold print at the top of the instructions?/
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know one thing now at least... You are pretty damn strong. LOL.
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Easyflier
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 09:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I didn't want to make light of your predicament but I couldn't help but chuckle when I pictured you turning that HUGE allen wrench. :)
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Usapitbullz
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mookie, Don't feel like your the only person who has ever done that, I know of at least 3 others who have done the same thing. I might have even done it if it werent for a friends mistake.


L8R, JM
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You did loosen the pinchbolts yes?
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Mookie
Posted on Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - 11:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

m1 yes i did. after i broke the original nut that comes in the toolkit. loosing the pinch nuts wont do me much good when im turning the axle the wrong way though
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Tedk
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mookie,

You probably just saved a few others who would have made that same mistake. Live and learn.
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M1combat
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agreed, I was just adding a log to the fire :).
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Buckinfubba
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

mookie
check your threads also once you get the axle out. make sure they fudged up.

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Mookie
Posted on Thursday, November 13, 2003 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i will. im move the remaining axle around through the threads. i just gotta get something to bind inside the axle to move it out. i will double check though
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Fullpower
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 08:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

real sorry abt breakage mookie. how much for new part? local stock, or have to order it?
use anti seize on new one, (sparingly) what tire are you putting on? later, dean
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Spiderman
Posted on Friday, November 14, 2003 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Had to order it for him. The cost surprised me at around $35
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 09:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Close tolerance machining of high strength steel with special hardware interface. I'm surprised that it's not a lot higher.
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Mookie
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im going with the pirelli diablos. I cant tell you how they are though as i still need to put it on the front and its pretty apparent as to how that is going.
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Easyflier
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im going with the pirelli diablos.

Good choice Mookie, even on cold or damp pavement they seem to stick well.
I'm so pleased with mine that I'll probably try a set of the Diablo Corsas when I change rubber for a track day next year.

BTW, how did you manage to get the remains of your axle removed?
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Mookie
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 11:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i havent ventured back out to the garage yet. im in supernerd mode as i have spent the most of the past 3 days in my basement writing code for programs.

i can stick my finger in the axle and move it so i dont think its going to be too difficult to remove. i just need to find something big enough to fit inside of it.
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Easyflier
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You know what might fit? Those battery tools that have those blades to scrape the posts and cable ends. I think most auto parts stores carry them and they're only a couple bucks. If you can turn it with your finger I think that might work.
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Stot
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How about using an old bicycle handle bar stem, you know the bit that goes down into the forks. They 'expand' as it were as you tighten the bolt and should grip the inside of the axle and you can just turn it out.

Cya
Stot
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, November 15, 2003 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It might be prudent to have your wheel hub tolerances checked. With all the force the axle must have put on the built-in spacer scheme and on the bearing inner races, it isn't inconceivable that some of the aluminum hub material near the faying surfaces of the axle might have been deformed. Probably not, but it might be a good idea to check things out now while you have the wheel off.
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Mookie
Posted on Sunday, November 16, 2003 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

im going to end up having to get new bearings. by tightening down so much on the axle i have damaged the ones that i have.

and dumbass me... spidey was nice enough to point out today the stamping on my fork that tells me which way to turn the axle.

well at least i was able to give someone a good laugh today.


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Squiz13
Posted on Monday, November 17, 2003 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FIRSTLY I must apologise.
The first thing I did when I read this thread was spit tea all over my keyboard and monitor as I had just taken a mouthfull before I got the gist of this thread ;)
Secondly thank you for highlighting this as to be honest I hadnt got round to undoing my axle for any reason yet and it may save me having the same problem.
It was fu**ing funny though :o
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Mookie
Posted on Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - 10:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

glad i could give someone else a smile

i cant wait to meet all of you someday so that we may drag this out even further :)
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Kaese
Posted on Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I was going to point out the stamp on the left side of the fork, but didn’t. If you ever make it out to the Bay Area, you have a ride. BTW I read binary.
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