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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Harsh direct man-talk makes Ted cry? Buck up Ted. LOL
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 07:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"You freakin' troll" carries with it the weight and history of past debates.

Do a search of past RSS discussions and see.
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Deltablue
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry but I have to agree with the masses here. The conduct of the anony, and that fact that it is wholeheartedly supported by the powers that be, for the first time has made me feel ashamed to be a BadWeb member. Believe me I've had many a person insult my personal work, it goes with the jobs that I do. The last thing that I would ever do is turn around an insult their person. That is just childish behavior, especially when you have access to empiracle (sp) data to back up your claims.
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Doughnut
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

badlionsfan, is that man beating a dead camel?
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)


Just sayin...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)




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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well looks like you name is the first one above that line ; )
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Doughnut
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you mean we're not talking about career success and finacial freedom?

(Was going to go into a little speech about lettng this all drop, but i don't think it would do any good. lets all just make up and be friends again, or get over it. Feelings seem to have been "hurt" on both sides. [Stop arguing! Can't you see you're tearing us all apart!]
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Doughnut
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh be nice!
(I've had way too much coffee this morn.)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I heard your Mom and Dad are going to get back together..........








HA HA!!! Not gonna happen!!
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Doughnut
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HA HA, if They do, I want the 18 years back child support. We would probaly have to go to Maury to make sure that he was the right one as well.
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Surveyor
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry but I have to agree with the masses here. The conduct of the anony, and that fact that it is wholeheartedly supported by the powers that be, for the first time has made me feel ashamed to be a BadWeb member. Believe me I've had many a person insult my personal work, it goes with the jobs that I do. The last thing that I would ever do is turn around an insult their person. That is just childish behavior, especially when you have access to empiracle (sp) data to back up your claims.

+1 DeltaBlue.
"ashamed" is a little strong for me, but I am disappointed at the way Trojan was treated. BTW most people on this side of the Pond, at least, would be well aware of Matt's credentials.
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 10:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go Sox!!
RedSox
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Treadmarks
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 10:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm sorry but I have to agree with the masses here. The conduct of the anony, and that fact that it is wholeheartedly supported by the powers that be, for the first time has made me feel ashamed to be a BadWeb member. Believe me I've had many a person insult my personal work, it goes with the jobs that I do. The last thing that I would ever do is turn around an insult their person. That is just childish behavior, especially when you have access to empiracle (sp) data to back up your claims.

+2

Thanks for saying that DeltaBlue.

I would elaborate, but it would probably just get me banned.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's a question. What sort of info is given here that's so precious and secret than anybody has to remain Anon? All I read is...

"that's inaccurate"
"no, that's wrong"
"sure that can happen"

Where's the juice?? I haven't read one post by an Anon that's giving details that they'd get fired or repremainded for.

Links please?
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Boltrider
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is the first forum I've been a part of that uses Anonymous tags. But I'm still not sure how it works. Do the Admins give permission for folks to use the Anony tags? Or can anyone use it?

(Message edited by boltrider on August 06, 2008)
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Trojan basically called Anonymous a liar and in no tactful or respectful fashion. The whining here on Matt's behalf is likely embarrassing to him. One thing I know about Matt. He's no whiner. When he makes harsh statements toward others, he's not one to ever cry when met with similar harshness in return.

I agree, both Matt and Anony could benefit from a semester or ten in the Court Canfield school of diplomacy.

All the rest is just gossip and frankly that kind of silliness going on here is embarrassing. Are we men or gossipy little ninny-chat-a-bouts?





John (Buellinachinashop),

Here's a question. What sort of info is given here that's so precious and secret than anybody has to remain Anon? All I read is...

"that's inaccurate"
"no, that's wrong"
"sure that can happen"

Where's the juice?? I haven't read one post by an Anon that's giving details that they'd get fired or repremainded for.

Links please?"


You've obviously not read a fair sampling of anonymous contributions on BadWeB, and your understand of the issue concerning contributions by some who may be in the know to a public forum is frighteningly poor. Good people have been fired for information that they have shared and that has ended up on BadWeB. The highly valuable information contributed anonymously here, purely, unselfishly for the benefit of Buell enthusiasts is legion. That you cannot grasp the need for anonymity is 100%, entirely irrelevant. You really shouldn't bother yourself over the issue. Nothing that you or anyone else has to say on the matter will change the BadWeB policy concerning anonymous contributions.

I for one very much value and appreciate the trouble some folks go to in order to provide us with valuable information that might otherwise be tough to come by.



Now, what did I do with my apron? ; )

(Message edited by Blake on August 06, 2008)
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi, my name is Jaime and I have a problem.

See, I realize there has been nothing useful or important put forth on this thread in well over a week, and yet for some unexplained reason I find myself coming back again and again hoping to find something, ANYTHING, that would be worth knowing.

I'm so ashamed...
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

something, ANYTHING, that would be worth knowing

I will tell you something worth knowing....

Racing is like crack!!! I have taught $2925.00 worth of Riders Edge and MSF classes so far this summer and spent it all on
RACING RACING RACING RACING RACING!!!

All I can say is STAY AWAY FROM THE TRACK!!
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Redbuelljunkie
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Let's put this fire out with some gasoline...

Why can't we have both? A "cosmetic" RSS (open flow-thru design) installed over the existing small one should, in theory, keep the OEM function while giving the balanced look most owners seem to prefer.

I shall now stand quietly and take what's coming to me...

(Message edited by redbuelljunkie on August 06, 2008)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

YOU GOT BALLS!!
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

A tiny sampling of informative anonymous posts:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/56836.html?1083545112#POST239754

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/47707.html?1071687776#POST187772

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/43096.html?1073605888#POST222441

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/355490.html?1210374771#POST1137608

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/364095.html?1211852985#POST1156700

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/297922.html?1120822259#POST221439

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/123785.html?1167330340#POST483322

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/158680.html?1131676736#POST544440

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=290431&post=1037410#POST1037410

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/368097.html?1215730007#POST1171113

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/171 43/169616.html?1139533286#POST583450

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/681 7/128828.html?1121895188#POST479520

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/37/ 273668.html?1185198530#POST928039

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/681 7/212916.html?1122854510#POST486880

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/253 912/290429.html?1186921970#POST930821

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/273921.html?1184365282#POST876738

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=1112627#POST1112627

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=556704#POST556704

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/373817.html?1215222799#POST1184669

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=1015674#POST1015674

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=960178#POST960178

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=895435#POST895435

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=534147#POST534147

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=230231#POST230231

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=937374#POST937374

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/273921.html?1184365282#POST876738

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/320337.html?1195930379#POST1015891

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=32777&post=1015924#POST1015924

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/322472.html?1196915999#POST1014771

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/321946.html?1197910418#POST1028952

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/314628.html?1193344337#POST998151

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/283058.html?1181078951#POST901351

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/282305.html?1182253990#POST901114

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/252524.html?1169611866#POST813145

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/250643.html?1168383468#POST805399

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/250297.html?1168272245#POST804862

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/249269.html?1168063442#POST802975

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/244204.html?1165401743#POST789203

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/243940.html?1166221934#POST793353

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/232104.html?1159567030#POST741145

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/224820.html?1157243847#POST733648

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/218807.html?1154939624#POST714380

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/217825.html?1154362269#POST707832

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=158664&post=708004#POST708004

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/217825.html?1154362269#POST708004

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/100231.html?1109878646#POST396255

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/173100.html?1139054195#POST589781

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/178161.html?1141051626#POST603535

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/312370.html?1192371257#POST990697

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/304054.html?1189286403#POST965733

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/240942.html?1163791384#POST779968

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/327 77/240937.html?1163715756#POST779611

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/25/ 47899.html?1078902227#POST239752

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/158 664/215670.html?1154276042#POST704899
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Greenlantern
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hi, my name is Jaime and I have a problem.

See, I realize there has been nothing useful or important put forth on this thread in well over a week, and yet for some unexplained reason I find myself coming back again and again hoping to find something, ANYTHING, that would be worth knowing.

I'm so ashamed...



Hell Junior, I'm still trying to figure out why everybody is arguing about a RSS on their Buell Motorcycles by using a RSS for Buell Motorcyclists!?





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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

More?...

Buell 1125R Forum Anonies Posts
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 02:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, nobody is saying Anon. posts useless info, at least I'm not.

I read 1/2 of all those links and NOT 1 has info that couldn't be posted as a registered user.

If somebody from Buell would have their own corner, like Court does, for Tech Questions..who'd argue that or call them liars?

Does Buell/Harley have rules against employees posting EXACT info on enthusiast web sites?
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Lamo
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 02:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I love rss threads best entertainment on the net I might just start another one !
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Hooligan620
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What's RSS?
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Blake, I respectfully ask you to get real.

A statement was made that an aftermarket RSS will overcool the fuel rail.

Trojan responded by saying that it "{wasn't} true", and didn't know how the factory came up with that excuse.

An Anony then called Trojan a "freakin' troll", proceeded with the how dare you's and so forth.

The bottom line is two-fold -

a) An aftermarket RSS undercools the fuel rail, as outlined by the Ask Abe article posted in here twice now, proving Trojan to be CORRECT in stating than an RSS does NOT overcool the fuel rail.

b) Trojans response to the issue was not to an Anony directly, while the Anony repsonse was directed at Trojan directly. On top of that, Trojan's post was LOADS more polite than the Anony post.

Nobody in here is being whiney little girls. But the way you are acting about the anony post is sickening. We ALL appreciate thier input, but that doesn't mean they should be allowed to act as they please because they have feelings and have worked on these bikes or some other horseshit response. Did you ever think that maybe someone did research, found the opposite claims of BMC and then designed and built RSS's? I assure you that someone had to make those - they didn't dig them up out of the ground or something.

It sounds like you would appreciate if an Anony shit in your living room.

I forget the exact quote, but it's something to effect of, "He who doesn't stand up for others will stand alone".
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Id073897
Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a) An aftermarket RSS undercools the fuel rail, as outlined by the Ask Abe article posted in here twice now

I would have expected a native speaker to have learned to read his own language better. The quoted article states exactly the opposite: "it turns out that if this scoop has too big of an opening the airflow is not directed to the fuel rail as effectively".

No single word of "overcooling". How would it be possible to overcool a fuel rail? I'm still waiting for answers.

Naming members by their real name and insulting them hidden behind an anonymous account is no good habbit and I wonder why some custodians defend it. But this lead to the one old question, even the ancient azteks asked themself: "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?"

Regards,
Gunter
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