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Thepod
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just found out about the Veypor, http://veypor.com/ but I'm wondering if anybody knows if there is a way to hook the ECM thingy upto a scantool like the scangauge http://www.scangauge.com/

I'd rather not have to buy both
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Teddagreek
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2008 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I use it in my truck... Love it's probably paid for its self in the last year..

Lets you find the sweet spot MPG wise I also saw how E85 jacked my MPG...



Its a OBII connector...
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Thepod
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Agreed, I have the scangauge and I use it on my Mercury Mariner Hybrid. Helped me to find the sweet spot too. It would awesome on my XB, but does anyone know where it would hook up and if it would work?
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Lightningstrikes
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The bike does not have a OBDII port. The diagnostics for the bike is a different style plug and interface.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 to Lightningstrikes. Cars have a standardized connector and interface. Motorcycles is every man for himself. Your best bet would be to get a ECMspy cable and use ECMspy to look at whatever you want. Also, I have the Veypor VR2, it's a bit a bitch to get to work on the XB, but once your setup its great. What specifically are you looking to do? Oh yea, I see you got a 2008, ECMspy currently doesn't work 100% correct with it at the moment.
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Thepod
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 11:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It would be nice to know instantaneous MPG like what is available on the scangauge. That way you could find the sweet spot for MPG and really see if it is your riding style affecting MPG or if the 2008s and 2009s(?) really do have a fuel efficiency problem.
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 12:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The VR2 does not tie into the ECM at all. It uses a wire to tap into the ignition coil to get the Tachometer, then another wire with magnet goes to a wheel to get the speed. From there you calibrate it. You input the tire's overall diameter so it can accurately calculate speed. Then you play with the tach sensor to put in the right settings for picking up the tach signal. Then you ride it and program the gear ratios while riding. You configure the fuel gauge by filling up, setting it to your tank size, riding a while then when you fill up again and input the amount of gas used. It is spot on, but from what I can tell it shows average MPG, not instant MPG. Works great, I love it. Shame it's not waterproof, I had to open it once to let it dry out.



Wire going to ignition coil



Ghetto rigged wheel speed sensor, you can see my magnet stuck on the brake rotor. I got it installed better now, but using clear packing tape on bottom of axle out of sight.



Ignore my top speed, I accidently transposed the numbers first time I set it up. : )

It sounds harder to do than it is, but honestly the hardest part was tapping into the ignition coil.
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Thepod
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2008 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info. I will look into one of these. Although I probably should tap into any more wire than
I already have for my additional taillight/turnsignal rig. Probably already voided my warrant
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Mmcn49
Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2008 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The OBD II connector has 16 pins:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8

9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

Pin 2 - J1850 Bus+
Pin 4 - Chassis Ground
Pin 5 - Signal Ground
Pin 6 - CAN High (J-2284)
Pin 7 - ISO 9141-2 K Line
Pin 10 - J1850 Bus
Pin 14 - CAN Low (J-2284)
Pin 15 - ISO 9141-2 L Line
Pin 16 - Battery Power

OBD II uses one of three protocols. The Scangage works on any of them. If Buell uses one of them the Scangage may work.

If someone owns a Scangage they could try connecting it with clip leads to the Deutsch connector and see if they get useable readings.
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