| Author | Message | ||
     Viper9885 |
Ok so I am about to the point where my next step is some sort of aftermarket engine management. At first I was pretty sure I was just going to go with the Direct Link, but after searching there are so many other options with different features that I have no idea what I want. First I’d like to ask that unless you actually have experience with something please don’t trash talk it. For me it is between the Remus Powerizer (Pros) plug & play, no dyno time, no maps, no work (can be plugged into if dyno time is necessary) (Cons)how good can it be without detailed tuning maps and dyno time Direct Link (pros)full rpm/load based maps with complete tunability, Ignition maps also, very thorough and pre-made maps available from Al (Cons) Dyno time, and if no dyno time then I got to call Al for a new map whenever I change something and hope that he has one for my specific combination of parts, gets "Locked" to one bike RapidBike (Pros)not really sure I haven't heard much about it, but the website makes it sound like the same as Directlink but without the whole pain in the ass of being "locked" to a specific bike (Cons)not really sure, like I said right now I am really leaning towards the powerizer and the RapidBike over the directlink because I just hate the idea of the whole one key one bike idea (there’s nothing even close to anything like that on ANY aftermarket car tuning hardware/software, why do they need to be like that?) and I like the powerizer (that is if it works as well as they claim) cause its super easy plug and play im just not sure about the AFV trickiness that might mess it up please comments, recommendation, past, experiences etc. etc. just, like i said though no bashing of something youv'e never even seen or used, use common sense | ||
| Cruzinonline |
EcmSpy. | ||
| Boltrider |
I knew someone was going to say EcmSpy. Never fails..... (Message edited by Boltrider on July 02, 2008) | ||
| Cruzinonline |
If you haven't used it don't knock it. Best bang for the buck. The OP said no trash talk so I didn't. What do you use? (Message edited by cruzinonline on July 02, 2008) | ||
| Boltrider |
I've downloaded EcmSpy, but haven't used it. I'm broke right now, so no mods as of yet. I'm not even sure I could use EcmSpy anyway. I've read the early '08 ECM's give back a firmware error when they are plugged in. I don't have the cable yet so I haven't tried it. The build date on my bike is October 2007, so I might have a problem getting it to work. But to answer Viper's question, I would give a good look at the Remus model. It's pricey b/c of the exchange rate, but it works. Too bad they don't make one yet for the '08+ Buells. (Message edited by Boltrider on July 02, 2008) | ||
| Xl1200r |
Viper - I have a Direct Link setup and am using one of Al's maps. Bike runs great, no complaints. It is a little pricey to get everything you need, but I think it's worth it in the end. Super easy to use. I was also thinking about the Remus unit when I was in the market, but decided against it because I coudln't get anyone with any real-world experience to tell me how it was. On paper, it's perfect. But I don't know how I'd feel about hacking into my wiring harness to install it. Another thing, the DL will let you reset the TPS on the your bike as well. Again, very simple to do in the software. I have never used/seen/personally known anyone that has used anything different than DL so I can't really comment on those. | ||
| Viper9885 |
yeah, i wish there was more of a market of people who have used the Remus, because honestly its the one im most leaning towards..... what are the features of the ECMspy? and who sells it so i can look at the actual retailers info about it | ||
| Boltrider |
It's free. You can download the latest version at ecmspy.com. But you need a special cable between your computer and the ecm to make it work. There are websites that sell the cable, but you can make one yourself as well. | ||
| Oldog |
Viper: ECMspy allows you to change the setting in the fueling maps warmup maps and other areas of the ecm, you can also copy the ECM to a file for down load, there is also a free tuning guide, the cable build will cost about 50.00$, The spy also has all of the needed testing features for checking the sensors and outputs of the ECM and doing the TPS reset. | ||
| Viper9885 |
and like i said in my cons the thing i hate about DL is that its locked to a bike, this seems rediculous to me and i don't get why a company would do that with their product. If i want to sell my bike or i crash it and need a new one, that means i have to spend another 100 bucks or whatever it costs for the key for my new bike. | ||
| Mesozoic |
I have an '08 and use ECMSpy 1.12.1. I'm able to successfully read the maps, but after I got the reflash from the dealership when they hooked up to the digital tech, the maps have some garbage values in them. I think the offsets have changed and ECMSpy doesn't know it yet. Anyhow, ECMSpy does work with the '08 bikes. | ||
| Id073897 |
2008 models are not supported with EcmSpy. Regards, Gunter | ||
| 12sbuell |
I just added the Daytona Twin Tec Twin Tuner to my bike about a month ago. It was cheap, easy to install, and fixed everything. Check it out if you get a chance. | ||
| Viper9885 |
with the twin tec twin tuner you need to Dyno tune it then correct? it just has a knob for throttle position (or RPM) and then the two buttons are the fuel rich/lean controls or something. I don't really get how it works | ||
| Ssscrudddy |
Poweriser works for me, slight adjustments that are too big for the engine management too cope with, but less than ECMSpy. I havent used ECMSpy but I think it basically lets you re-map everything. I could never do this in Need for Speed, so dont want to do it in the real world, especially to my bike. Poweriser is dead easy to set up, & probably cheaper. | ||
| Mesozoic |
What do you mean you could never do this in Need For Speed? | ||
| M1combat |
If you want to tune it yourself use ECMSpy. If you want to purchase a map for a specific configuration talk to Al at American Sport Bike. | ||
| Metalstorm |
I shy away from the spy and direct link for the reason that I'm clueless in the tuning/mapping department and I don't want to "learn" (possibly destroy) on my bike. The Poweriser sounds almost too good to be true. If I had the $$$ and if it works as well as they say with simple mods like pipe & filter, I would opt for that in a heartbeat. (Message edited by Metalstorm on July 09, 2008) | ||
| Viper9885 |
yeah i think i am going to get the powerizer, its not to good to be true all it does is monitor the A/F ratio via the O2 sensor input and then tweaks the map accordingly(on the fly), its kinda like what is already on the bike in the form of the AFV but more thorough and performance minded...... or at least thats the impression i got from it...not to mention you need no dyno time and no need to re-tune if you take something off or add something |
