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08_xbss
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just wondering if any one else has experienced this ! I have an 08 xb12ss and have fitted a Jardine muffler the issue i have is on start up when i first start the bike it runs for about 2 seconds then stop's when i restart it it runs fine and continues to start first go it just seems to happen on initial start up when its cold , any thoughts
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 06:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

battery connection
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08_xbss
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 07:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ive checked all connections its only started when i fitted the Jardine after initial 2nd start there is no issue it start's 1st go !
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 07:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

my 05 does that sometimes when it's cooler out side, on first start up of the day. not out of the ordinary. just don't blip the throttle to keep it running. if it wants to die after a few seconds, let it. then let the fuel pump cycle again, re-fire, let it warm up and ride happy.
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Randomchaos
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine died on me twice this morning. Just the nature of the modified buell in cooler whether I guess : )
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

yep mine does the same when cold. it'll stall on the first try, then will run on the second try.

what i really hate is that it doesn't like hot starts. always stumbling.
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Xl_cheese
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think theres a difference in your open loop idle and closed loop idle.

I've noticed that while trying to dial in the idle fuel map that I can obtain a great closed loop idle, but a horrible open loop idle.

Open loop idle occurs when cold. Or on a warm start until the bike gets to a certain temp. I'm not sure what that temp is.

Once the bike is warm and has been driven around the block it will idle in closed loop.

I'm still trying to figure out why they work differently. My understanding that while in closed loop the bike is learning and adjusting. In open loop the lesson learned is locked in until it goes back to open loop learn.

I haven't owned my bike in anythign below 60 yet so I don't know the behavior there.
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Deltablue
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine used to do that. It was also hard to start hot, like after fueling. Since I put a new battery in I haven't had a problem. Battery tested just fine but didn't have the cranking power it should. If your battery isn't close to 100% it messes with the Fuel Injector.
Just my .02
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Azxb9r
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How cold is cold? My 07 has done that since it was new when the temp dips below about 40 deg F.
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Sloppy
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 05:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Mine does that when my idle speed was set too low. Check to make sure you're at specification.

Over the years you can also build up a gummy residue in the throttle body along the edge of the throttle plate which disturbs air flow at idle conditions. Keeping this area clean helps prevent off idle stumbling.
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08_xbss
Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Guys i guess this is one of those Buell things i need to live with, appreciate your thoughts and comments cheers
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