| Author | Message | ||
     Werewulf |
i had the new factory authorized ecm flash put on my bike today at gainesville harley... they have an excellent dealership.. it was raining hard on the way home, so it was hard to tell anything...anyone else have it done? if so what difference did you notice? | ||
| Lane |
Mine was done today (08 XB12Scg), picking it up tomorrow, I'll post the results later. | ||
| Ghost_rider33 |
Was this a warranty thing or "out of pocket?" Mine is an 08XB12S. It is running like crap at under 4k. Perhaps my 14 miles round trip to work is not making her happy? She does like to be ridden.  | ||
| Boltrider |
I just had mine done. Made a HUGE difference. And no out-of-pocket expense on my part either. It was fully warranted. My bike couldn't even idle for more than 10 seconds without dying. This started happening after I turned 50 miles on her. But all is well now. (Message edited by boltrider on June 12, 2008) | ||
| Werewulf |
my bike was wanting to stall when cold and this download gave me a bit of relief from that part... i rode it this morning and i could tell an improvement.. not a huge difference, but noticable... it is still puny in traffic and has a slight surge in the lower gears, but im afraid this is as good as it gets.. probably within the next year, someone may come up with a cure, who knows... thats what i get for buying the first new thing to come out... sure, you dont have to have the tps reset anymore, but it will run like it needs it... | ||
| Xbrfirebolt |
Mine was flashed back on May 7th. My dealer was trying to fix the flat spot off idle. It didn't fix the flat spot, but it did feel like I gained some power thru the rest of the rpm range. You can reset the TPS yourself on the '08 bikes. You don't need to take it to the dealer for that anymore. The procedure was posted on here a couple of times. | ||
| Werewulf |
yep, you can reset it yourself, its just that it doesnt make any improvement.. at least its free.. | ||
| Kev187 |
Wait? They Re-Flashed this? Is this a recall, or are they just reflashing the stock ECM map back on your ECM? I wonder if this would help the 08 Fuel Mileage concerns??? So did Buell announce a new "authorized" flash? I guess I need to call my dealer & see what its all about? | ||
| Azxb9r |
So did Buell announce a new "authorized" flash? I guess I need to call my dealer & see what its all about? I don't know about the motorcvcle industry, but in the automotive world the dealer does not contact you when a new flash program is released, they wait for you to come in with a complaint, I assume it is the same for motorcycle dealers. If you have a complaint about the way your bike runs, give them a call and ask about it. As long as your bike is under warranty, it should be covered. Keep in mind that any flash program that Buell releases must be EPA compliant. That is one reason that it takes a while to create one, and it is also why it may not "cure" all of your complaints. | ||
| Boltrider |
Okay I need to clarify. The service writer didn't know what he was talking about when he first told me what was done. I talked to him again today, and he said that one of the injectors was stuck open, causing the bike to run super rich. So the O2 sensor was trying to compensate for this by leaning the motor out. When put together, you have a bike that won't idle, which was one of the problems I was having. There were multiple problems with mine, but the worked they did really smoothed things out. I Hope this helps. (Message edited by boltrider on June 17, 2008) (Message edited by boltrider on June 17, 2008) | ||
| Xbrfirebolt |
I was told it was a updated map from Harley that was flashed on my '08. I assume they meant Buell. I took it in on 5/07/08 with a complaint of a Bad Flat Spot off Idle. My bikes build date is Aug. '07. I purchased it on 9/07/07. I have always felt it's a problem with the ECM map to meet EPA emissions in California. | ||
| Werewulf |
my problem was similar and my build date was july 07.. anyway, im sure any dealer can contact buell and get the updated flash.... | ||
| Ericz |
Dave, I did your reflash on your XB. It was the last thing I looked at in hopes of something that might fix the prob. The reflashes are listed when you connect the bike to the Digital Tech. You can see the current calibration id under ECM info and then compare it to the latest cal. id in the reflash window. It is the first I saw/heard of a new calibration available for the 08's. I still don't know what the differences are but Kevin/service manager is going to find out what changes were made to the cal. I hope it works out for you. These types of issues are very difficult to sort out when they only happen with a cold bike, unless it throws a code, and even then it doesn't always lead you right to the problem. | ||
| Werewulf |
i do appreciate the great service that i always get at gville harley... they have an honest interest in buells and thats a good thing.. | ||
| Werewulf |
my lack of performance has been from day one, however, i looked for other things while i was changing plugs... several of the members have mentioned rubbed plug wires and guess what, both of mine had rubbed and at least one of them damaged.. probably not my problem, but they will be in time... a call to my dealer and not a problem, they are going to replace them.. like i said, a good bunch of guys...i would think by now, bmc would address this issue.... | ||
| Werewulf |
well, after a couple of hundred of additional miles, i can confirm that the bike still runs like poop... the dealers hands are tied on the 08s, so i called BMC customer service to see what could be done.. and guess what, nothing!! they hadnt heard of this problem... the solution that the agent gave me, was to keep my rpm higher...since my problem is at low speeds in town, im going to start launching at 5k rpm from all traffic lights.. i will also quit making right turns, as this makes the bike cough at times...so im all set.... | ||
| Xbrfirebolt |
I've had to relearn to ride my bike in how to take off from a stop. It has such a bad flat spot off idle. It could be dangerous. I don't understand how Buell can't fix this! The '08 Harleys don't have this problem, so why don't they find out how they mapped their ECMs? | ||
| Spacecapsule1 |
I had the reflash done to my TT. I can't tell any difference at all. Still runs like poop. Coughs, sputters, backfires...... | ||
| Tmall |
I had mine done today. It's smoother now and actually accelerates when I twist the grip instead of just making noise and sputtering. I'll let you know how my milage was affected either today or tomorrow. | ||
| Werewulf |
i think my clutch is ready to get funky, from slipping it so much... i have never lost a clutch on a bike, but this might be a first..its runnning really crumy today and when i was leaving the dixie grille today, some other riders were checking out my bike... when i took off from the stop sign and turned, it coughed and almost stalled...im sure it was impressive... | ||
| Tmall |
I put about 100 miles on after the reflash this evening. It just works better. It's more responsive, pulls harder and most importantly it doesn't sputter and cough or stall.. My buddy who has an 08 lightning ss rode it tonight, and he says he noticed how much better it is working. He's going in to have his reflashed tomorrow after trying mine. | ||
| Werewulf |
im going back to gville harley tomorrow to have the plug wires replaced...im hoping for improvement... | ||
| Werewulf |
erik put new wires on the bike and said that he thought it ran to spec....on the way home, it ran much better and this morning it didnt stumble as bad when cold...its almost a pleasure to ride now...it runs very strong at highway speeds.. i talked to the salesman about trading it in and the bike must have heard me... | ||
| Mesozoic |
My dealer obviously didn't hook the bike up to the digitech and I couldn't convince them to search harder for a reflash, so can someone post their ECU binary up, please? | ||
| Caperken |
I just picked up my new 2008 XB12Ss on Wednesday. I informed the dealer, Privateers Harley Davidson / Buell in Halifax, Nova Scotia, of the ECM flash for 2008 XB12s. They got the map and flashed my ECM. They also found that my stator was bad and replaced it before I picked up the bike. I rode home and have put on 252 miles. The bike has run flawlessly and I got 39.1 mpg (US) over those 252 miles. This bike has greatly exceeded my expectations and I'm very happy with it. | ||
| Cudajohn |
Is there a stator problem on fresh out the box 12R's like there is on the FOTB '08 1125R's? So it is sounding like when I get my '08 or '09, I should also purchase plug wires, stator and have the ECM re-flashed? Do you think plug wire boots would help? You know the shiny silver sleeves that go on hotrod engines to protect from header heat? They sell rolls of the stuff in Summit Racing. Is this a heat issue or a rub issue? Boots would help both. |
