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Ckj
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How do I go about getting my pipes their original gold color and not this blueing they are showing now.
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I kinda like the look, so I'm leaving mine the way they are. Mike didn't like it so he got steel wool and polished his. They are now kinda silver, but turning back to gold, with the blue coming back faster. When I clean my bike I use Mother's just to keep 'em looking good. You'll never get the blue to go away without a good cleaning an never running the engine. Maybe jet coating a color you like would help you.
I could be wrong on this, I've been wrong before, just ask my wife...
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Cro13
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 09:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ckj,
Check this out.

Last I had this done they didn't have gold but the silver was very nice and never blued even with thousands of hard miles.

http://www.jet-hot.com

Cost a little over $100
The pipes never needed polishing again.
Carter
03 XB9R
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Chainsaw
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Cro13:
Did you have to turn the engine down to get at that rear header bolt? How much effort was that?

Bud had posted elsewhere that he strapped up the rear end, removed the rear shock, moved the fan, and was able to reach his rear header bolt to tighten it.

I'd go for the jet-hot coating if I knew getting the pipes off wasn't gonna be too much trouble. Till then, blueing is beautiful in my eyes. :)
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Darthane
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ditto, I like the bluing. I'm told ScotchBrite (?) will get rid of bluing.

I'd love to Jet Coat my new header, but I really, REALLY want it to be red and they apparently only do that silver/chrome look.

Bryan
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Ckj
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carter
Sounds like the perfect idea with the jet-coating, but does someone know how difficult it is to remove the pipes and also how long it takes to do just in case I have to have the dealership do it?
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 08:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bryan, Check out http://www.hpcoatings.com/hipercoat.htm
red
Scroll to the bottom...
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Dynarider
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 09:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Screw the blue pipes, who cares? I think it looks cool & it means that you actually ride the bike. Trophy bikes that sit in the garage never have blued pipes.
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Hippo888
Posted on Saturday, August 30, 2003 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does that 'Blue Away' polish work?
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Darthane
Posted on Sunday, August 31, 2003 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oooh...reeeeeeed...
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Cro13
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Chainsaw, Ckj;
I have not done it on my XB yet I had it done on my S3 four years ago.

I will be doing it to my XB this winter in conjunction with some engine work.
Carter
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Bud
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

just a pic.
its realy easy and forward job to get to the rearheader bolts,
for the lower headerbolt, you can best take the right airguide off and use a long extention.
tools; 8mm hex (long one), 1/2 socket, t40 and a t27,

btw, changed my O2 sensor & no more hick-ups
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Chainsaw
Posted on Tuesday, September 02, 2003 - 07:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the tip Bud!
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Ckj
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 05:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Carter
How difficult was in to remove the headers and any words of advice
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Cro13
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ckj,
see above post.
It was quick and easy on the S3
Carter
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Gonen60
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Has anybody used the exhaust rap material?
I see a lot of custom chopper builders using it now.
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Road_thing
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 10:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Gone: I had some on an S1, but I didn't run it for long. I like the "utilitarian-racebike" look, but it smells bad when it heats up (smokes, too, while it's new) and looks like #*%! after it's been wet a few times.

r-t
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

and looks like #*%! after it's been wet a few times.

headerrap
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 11:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bud, did you use the Buell O2 sensor or did you buy an aftermarket one, and if so, what was the brand/part number?
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Bud
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 05:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

bryan,

got one from a friend, :)
he placed the PC3 hi.perf one,
the lucky basterd ;) has a bigbore (12) on his bike,
only 1500 miles done before the bore project,
so some cheep cylinders as well,
if i ever need theme ;)

perhaps a hint !!
allot off you guy's putting on force/nallin pipe's with PC3 + Hiperf. O2 sensor
so there should be a lot off O2 sensors laying around collecting dust.
just a thought

gr,m
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Chainsaw
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Darthane, Aaron of Nallin Racing is packaging a High Performance O2 sensor with their Force Pipe kit. He might be able to pass along that part number.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 09:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aaron? Would the highperf O2 sensor work with a race-kitted XB9R?
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Ckj
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bud
I am still having trouble figuring out exactly what you did to remove the headers. I am having trouble being able to access the bolts of the headers to remove them. HELP?
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Ckj
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GLITCH
Which Mother's product do you use for your headers?
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Ckj
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GLITCH
Which Mother's product do you use for your headers?
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Bud
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ckj,
Support the rear off the bike ( see pic. ) to take the load off the back wheel
This is needed for the removal off the rear schok.
Take off the seat & muffler
Take the shok. Loose,( t40 & 1/2 “ socket & 8 mm hex. ) and let it rest on the swingarm ( protect it from scratching )
Leave the oil reservoir mounted !!
Take off the fan ( 4 torc T27 ) and rotated it counter clock wise ( seen from the back )and take it out
Get hold off a O2 sensor tool, and take the O2 sensor out.
Remove the left & right air guide ( under the frame 2 x 3 x T27 )
Take a long extension with wobble piece & a ½ socket and unscrew the lower header bolt
The upper bolt unscrew it from above,
Unscrew the front header bolts, you may have to take the V-brace loose as well ( leave the oil cooler in place ) just take the V-brace loose
And then get the front off the header out off the v-brace ( turn it outwards )
And if you have clearence to move the header upwards , turn it upwards and take it off

Note!! place new gaskets !! & and you can’t really torq the rear bolt with a torq wrench
If you do it like I described,
But I’m trusting my grease arm feeling,
if you don’t have any tinkering experience it’s best to leave it alone !!!!


gr,M


edited by bud on September 04, 2003
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Glitch
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This Mother's

This Mother's


couldn't resist
couldn't resist
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Ckj
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Bud & GLITCH
Thank you guys for the help.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any time!
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Leeaw
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had my header done by Jet Hot in the polished silver look two years ago, and although it looks pretty good, it does not hold up to the heat. You can see a clearly that the bends closest to the heads have lost the silvery luster. And according to Jet Hot, it does not stand up to heat as well as their flat colors.

Scothbrite-like pads like the one that comes with the pro-series pipe work very well on the bare header too.
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