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Dynamicpress
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What makes these bikes different other than the styling and the extra inch of height ?

I know the fork adjusters are different and maybe the spring rates as the setup page shows different settings for rider weight between the two bikes

I need to pick one or the other.
Which Buell ?
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Werewulf
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

depending on your area, but in my area, no one had a long... everyone had a TT...might be easier to resell the long, who knows..
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Do you have a passenger? Lightning Long. No passenger and like goofy looking flaps? The TT.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 03:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

TT for the tires and the hand guards. and of course the black wheels. No contest
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2008 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

TT = "new M2". Ride, and ye shall understand : )
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Paint_shaker
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

+1 what Jaimec said...

pass: SS

no pass: TT
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Thulsadoom
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

As far as I understand you can just get the seat from the long and put it on the TT. Grab some passenger pegs and lose the number plates and the passenger issue is a moot point.

DOOM
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Spacecapsule1
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

TT. You'll appreciate the extra ground clearance. You can see over cars better and you get more travel to absorb bumps. The pictures don't do the TT justice. It looks so much better in real life, even the number plates, which i have grown to like. All you have to do is throw on some passenger pegs if you want to ride 2-up. An SS seat will fit. I don't know the details of the suspension though.... whether its better or not..... maybe some one else will know that. Plus you get the black wheels which are just plain sexy, the handgaurds, headlight grill, black tail section frame rails and the better tires. They even look better because of the mean looking tread pattern. Number plates and fenders are a matter of preference. I didn't like them until I saw one in person, now I do.

(Message edited by spacecapsule1 on May 12, 2008)
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SS and STT are essentially the same bike, so it comes down to the ride height and cosmetics being the difference. My SS is half SS and half STT.
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Metalstorm
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The rake & trail is also ever so slightly different between the two.

Having never ridden either I can not say anything with any kind of credibility but on paper it looks like the TT might turn into corners a wee bit quicker than the long.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

if you have crappy rainy wet weather with roads that are less than up to par, I would go with the Scorps, and that is the TT. Maybe you get to ride around the track alot, or commute on the track to work, then the SS is a better choice ; )
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Thulsadoom
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 05:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think Cityxslicker is biased. No fair! I love my Ss, but I think a TT would have been better for me. Middle of May here in Wyoming 40* and raining. I rode into work this morning, no rain, but chilly. The ride home is going to suck!

DOOM
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Steve_mackay
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

SS and STT are essentially the same bike

You've not ridden both back to back have you? There certainly share the same frame/subframe, swingarm and engine. But beyond that, they are very different. The suspension makes a HUGE difference in these two bikes. The TT being superior in that department.

The TT, without a doubt IMHO.
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Jaimec
Posted on Monday, May 12, 2008 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Really? I didn't feel any difference at all and I prefered the seating position on the Ss. The TT was too much "Sit up and beg" for me. If I'm going with that, I'd rather the XB12XT for the more relaxed leg position AND the hard bags.
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Dynamicpress
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I agree with Steve, The TT seems to ride and handle better for me. You do seat higher, but get used to it. I think the shocks and forks are sprung different.
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Swordsman
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I don't understand the guys getting all exited about black wheels. Did you pop the hubcaps off your cars and lust over the black steelies underneath as well...?

Black = boring
Sunset = sexy!

The TT may have a nicer suspension, but it's a dorky looking bike. And yes, I AM that shallow. The hand guards are WAY overrated. I bought some for my Ss, and sold them. Flimsy and useless for anything other than collecting bugs.

~SM

(Message edited by Swordsman on May 13, 2008)
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147db
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Handguards are useless almost like the helmet.
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Jaimec
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had those hand guards on my Ss with all of the low hanging branches and scrub brushes growing all over the Long Island Expressway...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 05:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

ifn you ride where the trees and branches are, those hand guards are nice, and the block a bit of the debris from the ULY in front of you ; ) there is no wrong answer except sitting on the couch and continuing to let riding days pass you by. GET one, set it up the way you want. Doing it all over again, I would have gone TT and powdercoated the cases BLACK
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Point_doc
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Are those Aprilia mirrors? If so, how do you like them? Thanks
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Dynamicpress
Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 10:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Aprilia Mirrors - Yes they are very good.

I think that are pretty good value as well.

I messed with mirrors on my SV and they cost much more and are no better
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 09:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"Handguards are useless almost like the helmet."

Yep. A helmet made out of the same flimsy material would indeed be useless.

~SM
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Towjam
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Right. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had those hand guards on my Ss with all of the low hanging branches and scrub brushes growing all over the Long Island Expressway...

Laugh if you want to but they're nice to have when riding in colder weather. Add heated grips, and you can pretty much ride year round with the thinnest gloves.

(I'll agree that they're dorky looking on a street bike though.)
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Birdy
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have a STT and I even think it's fugly so a bit of plastic and all better now! BUT changing out the underpining in a SS would cost a ton!

The ride is great on the poor roads around here and the seat really is very comfy for one person only there is NO way you'd get two on it though.

Either way you can't go wrong IMHO both are great bikes.

(Message edited by birdy on May 14, 2008)
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Metalstorm
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ya wanna see dorky looking?
On my 12Scg I have the hand guards PLUS the Tourtech hand guard extenders.
Talk about dorky looking : )

But...combined with the Polly heaters I can ride in the low 20's, high teens.
The hands don't exactly feel warm at those temps but they're not screaming in pain & agony either : )
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Jaimec
Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2008 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wear Olympia winter gauntlets in the winter and an electric vest when I commute to and from work. My hands never get cold. No dorky looking plastic required. Just my dorky looking Aerostich Roadcrafter one piece suit...
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Dynamicpress
Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I decided to keep the TT.

For some reason it's the bike I reach for.
It Always seemed to handle a little better than the SS.

I guess it was not my imagination. The 2009 SS has the same suspension and rake angle as the TT. It does keep the same travel though.
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