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Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 04:43 pm: | 
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That's been a problem on a few bikes.
I'm not sure that's all your problems, but it is a problem.
Plug it and see.
Good luck! |
Azxb9r
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 05:04 pm: |
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Job one is going to be fixing whatever is causing the check engine light to come on. The vacuum port on the side of the throttle body is for the evap system on models with Cal. emissions. On bikes with fed. emissions the port should be capped. If the cap is split, definitely replace it. Any vacuum leak is going to affect fuel trim. |
Teddagreek
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 06:04 pm: |
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What do you High Mile guys weigh???? I'm around 270ish with full gear tank bag and Back pack on my commute..
I can get in high 40's low 50's if all I do is highway..
I think it might be my city driving... 7 miles and 12-15 Traffic lights depending how I go.. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 06:04 pm: |
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Job one is going to be fixing whatever is causing the check engine light to come on.
Yep |
Rpm4x4
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 06:57 pm: |
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What do you High Mile guys weigh???? I'm around 270ish with full gear tank bag and Back pack on my commute..
I can get in high 40's low 50's if all I do is highway..
Im 220lbs with gear.Im 6foot 4inches. I would guess most of my riding is on the easy side. |
Brumbear
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 08:06 pm: |
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I'm 279 and I get around 40 on the backroads |
Pwnzor
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 09:04 pm: |
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So make of it what you will, but I'll go by their recommendation.
Exactly what part of this statement was hard to understand?
I wasn't giving advice at all. I was relaying information told to me by someone in the field of Research and Development. I have a new Kawasaki, and so I consult with him about it. If you read my post carefully, you'll see that I said At Kawasaki, changing your pipe does not void the warranty. Changing the air filter or airbox does.
Notice that first part, "at Kawasaki".
I personally extrapolate from this information that mufflers do not affect the air/fuel mixture. Buell engines are different from every other motorcycle, so I'll concede that perhaps back pressure, or lack of it, can cause some sort of altered condition in the combustion chamber. Not being an R&D guy myself, I couldn't possibly offer a valid opinion in that arena, merely conjecture, which is what I did and now I'll be so bold as to direct you once again to READ MY ORIGINAL POST, and quit READING INTO IT. I said what I said.
Sheeesh.  |
Glitch
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2008 - 11:01 pm: |
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I did read your original post.
Mufflers don't affect air/fuel mixture.
You were wrong.
Then you posted.
Growl, I have it straight from the R&D guys at Kawasaki that slipping on a pipe, no matter what kind, is totally safe and doesn't affect the air/fuel mix. I'm just passing on what they tell me is the result of many years of testing for that exact thing. They go on to say that changing your airbox or air filter at all will throw things out of whack and remapping is the smart thing to do at that phase.
Then after that paragraph you went on to say.
At Kawasaki, changing your pipe does not void the warranty. Changing the air filter or airbox does. So make of it what you will, but I'll go by their recommendation.
Sure sounds like advise to me, so I clarified the topic, to make sure no one here thinks that your original post Mufflers don't affect air/fuel mixture. is a false statement with regards to Buell motorcycles.
No need to get upset, you were wrong, live and learn. |
Mtg
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 01:12 am: |
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As reference, the last few tanks on my '03 9R with factory race kit have been 60-63 mpg of pretty much all highway riding.
I'm not real big- about 5'11" and 170 lbs and I try to keep the speed reasonable along with reducing excessive acceleration to help the mpg. All of that mpg is offset at trackdays though  |
Azxb9r
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 02:38 am: |
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What do you High Mile guys weigh????
I weigh about 165 w.o. gear. My mileage is usually 50-52 mpg. If I am doing a lot of short trips in town it can drop to 45-48 mpg. Highway riding I get 62- 69 mpg. That is for an 07 xb9r with no mods. |
Glitch
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 07:14 am: |
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I weighed in at MB with the guys that were loosing weight. With full leather on I am 180.
I'm six feet tall.
On the commute to Atlanta, it's 80+ mph, and I'll get around 60mpg.
Up in the hills it drops a little, maybe 5 or so mpg.
Buell Race Kit is the only mod. |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 07:50 am: |
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I weighed in at MB with the guys that were loosing weight. With full leather on I am 180.
Yeah, but whoe's wife was tossin quarters in my "coin purse"  |
Glitch
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 08:34 am: |
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Coin purse! Yeah right!
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Pwnzor
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 09:47 am: |
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So, telling somebody what I'm doing sounds like advise to you...
Wow... I'm not mad, but puzzled to see how people get words so mixed up to think that an anecdotal statement regarding one's own personal actions can be misconstrued as advise.
I maintain that I am correct, I have spoken again with the R&D guys over at Kawi, and changing the slip-on pipe will increase air/fuel flow, it increases BOTH, not one or the other and so does not affect the MIXTURE.
As I said.
How about this, no more "advise" from me. |
Randomchaos
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 10:32 am: |
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I weigh a whopping 150-155lbs without gear, and am about 5 foot 11 inches tall |
Darthane
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 10:41 am: |
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"I weigh a whopping 150-155lbs without gear, and am about 5 foot 11 inches tall"
 Me, too...it's the only thing that let me win drag races out at Milan against my old buddies! |
Glitch
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 10:54 am: |
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Yeah well, whatever.
I maintain that I am correct, I have spoken again with the R&D guys over at Kawi, and changing the slip-on pipe will increase air/fuel flow, it increases BOTH, not one or the other and so does not affect the MIXTURE.
Correct, sort of.
The mixture staying the same will end up being lean because the way the cylinders scavenge will have changed causing a lean condition, harmful to the engine. Lean = Heat You can further the lean condition by adding a free flowing (open) air box.
How about this, no more "advise" from me.
Works for me, if it works for you. Frankly it matters not to me personally.
Gruff sounding, maybe. But it was you that started out a post with "Growl".
It's beyond me why you don't see how what you posted is confusing.
All I'm trying to do is keep information clear. If you want to continue posting what you do with your Kawasaki, and what your friends at Kawasaki R&D do and say, please keep it in the Kawasaki thread. |
Mnbueller
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 11:04 am: |
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Sure glad we stayed on the subject here... |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 01:46 pm: |
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You know... the Ford guys think there is nothing wrong with putting a distrubuter cap (remember those?) on the front of the motor....
What were they thinking??
Anyways, not to pick on you Pwnzor.... but I did interpert your post to mean that since the Kawa guys said so, that it also applies to Buells...
No picking.. no digging... that's just the way I read it. |
Puredrive
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 02:38 pm: |
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I get about 120-135 miles before the bike goes into the reserve tank. with gear and my back pack the weight is around 170-175lbs
my commute is 28 miles round trip. Lots of it is stop and go traffic.
I got an XB9R with a Jardine, Race ECM and filter. |
Azxb9r
| | Posted on Friday, April 18, 2008 - 04:46 pm: |
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Sure glad we stayed on the subject here...
Did changing that split vacuum cap do anything for you? Or do you have to wait for the week-end to get back to it? |
Mnbueller
| | Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 09:33 am: |
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Azxb9r - It will have to wait until Monday. I'm out of town so I'm not near my bike  But next week I plan on replacing the cap and taking it for a ride and if the light still comes on; I'm going to change plugs, inspect the harness, and probably check to make sure the engine temp sensor is working properly.
I will keep the thread up to date. |
Mnbueller
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 07:37 am: |
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OK! I have found and fixed the problem!
But before I begin I would like to preface this by saying I am new to Buell's. I bought the bike in Dec. and this is the first I have ever ridden it. So I thought the way it was running was correct...Boy was I wrong.
I decided to change spark plugs. The rear plug was completely fouled!
Started the bike and took it for a ride...
OH MY GOD! The four previous times I have ridden the bike I was running on ONE! cylinder. And now that it is running on two...well I have not stopped grinning yet. |
Spiderman
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 08:07 am: |
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Wow!
I can only imagine what that cylinder looks like now...
Weather you are new to Buells or not, didn't you notice the total lack of power or super rough idle? |
Mnbueller
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 08:22 am: |
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Spiderman - Well I should probably have been more clear. I am new to motorcycles.
The rough Idle - I thought that is what a harley V-twin sounded like.
Lack of power - I didn't have a clue. For being a fist bike I thought it had enough power...until I fixed it, now its like I can't belive I was that stupid  , I am totally beside myself.
But now I know how the bike is SUPOSE to run. So I will be better off in the future. I'm sure if there was a Bueller close to me, he would have just heard the bike start up and say, "Hey, you're only running on one cyl." But I don't have any buelling friends here yet... |
Swordsman
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 09:06 am: |
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LOL! Wow, one cylinder. So, in essence, you were riding a Blast with Tourette Syndrome. 
Glad you got it sorted out!
~SM |
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