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Tat
Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 07:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Urgent memo from the headquarters of the “C.I.A.”

• Here at American Sport Bike, C.I.A. has a whole new meaning. It stands for Cold Inducted Air. We’ve just finished our Carbon Fiber Air Box Cover with C.I.A. integrated into the cover. This is a must for those of you who are performance oriented. Whether you’re stock or have a race kit, heads, barrels, pistons-or if you have the 12 series, you’ll find this to be an improvement over the stock set up. As usual, done in our gorgeous carbon fiber, to match the rest of those pieces already available.

• Fits all XB9S, XB9R (and should fit the 04 XB12S and XB12R-as the frame, body work and air box lids are the same).

• Will be pictured on our website soon, in the meantime, if you’d like pictures, send us an e-mail and we’ll forward some your way.

• You don’t want to miss out on this one, taking orders now. Part # 9012, $359.95

• *Patent Pending

• Dealer pricing available for authorized (full line) Buell dealers.

***Note: some minor modifications to air box lid are necessary.

5th Annual American Sport Bike Customer Appreciation BBQ Update:
• Plans are progressing, for those of you who haven’t marked your calendars yet; the day is Sunday, August 24 @ 2:00 p.m. As in the past many of our vendors have come through and provided you with some fantastic door prizes. This year, we’re getting some really cool stuff. How would you like to win something off this years winning Daytona Pro Thunder Firebolt, ridden by Dave Estok (courtesy of Henry Duga, racing director, Buell Motor Co.)? Or how would you like to win something from Hal’s Harley-Davidson/Buell Race Shop in New Berlin, WI-or possibly something from Tilley’s Race Shop in North Carolina. (Must be present to win). Let us know if you’d like a flyer sent to you for more details.
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Daves
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I need pictures Tat!
Dave
HD/Buell Cycle center
dave@iowaharley.com

How about a FREE sample?
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2k3lightning
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 06:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I take a few preview pictures lomini@comcast.net
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Looks cool Tat.
Is it ok to post the pics here?
I can do it if it's ok.
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Zip
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 05:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tat - I'd like to see a pic of that to.
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Tim
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tats message says to send an e-mail request for pictures. I don't think he actively follows the discussions on the board.
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Timbo
Posted on Monday, July 28, 2003 - 07:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tat joined us (Golden State BRAG) for our July ride yesterday. He was riding a XB9S that was loaded with goodies. Mostly carbon fiber stuff, cold air induction included, but lots of other smaller stuff too. Very cool bike. It was a great day and I enjoyed his company. Here are a few pics I clicked of his bike. Notice the inlet on the air box cover, the air box itself is modified as well but not visible in these shots.

Tat's 9S

Other side of Tat's 9S

Air box close up

Nice stuff indeed!

Oh, BTW, that D&D can sounded pretty sweet too. A little louder and deeper than the factory race can but not too loud.

Timbo
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

FRAME SLIDERS! FRAME SLIDERS! Where do I get them?
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Mikej
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Probably from Tat at ... wait for it ... American Sport Bike ;)
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Kevyn
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Adjustable levers! Mmmmmm!

Nice bike indeed!
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Skully
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hhhmmm. Those frame sliders look awfully small. I would be very concerned that even a tip over would produce a lot of damage to the tank/frame.

YMMV
Keith
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Geofg
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quote: Those frame sliders look awfully small.

They're not bad, and they fit snugly at the widest point on the frame. Though I haven't used them yet, I suspect they'll deal well with the usual scrapes people have had when they drop the XBs.

-Geof

edited by geofg on July 29, 2003
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Skully
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I guess I did not do a very good job with that statement "Those frame sliders look awfully small".

Unless there is a structural stiffener behind the slider (inside the tank/frame), due to its small size, I am confident that when dropped, if that slider is what primarily breaks the fall, the tank/frame will experience stress in excess of what the aluminum alloy can withstand and will experience permanent deformation.

If the slider were larger or located over the sharp bend (which would actually get into your knee), this might not be the case.

YMMV
Keith
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Darthane
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 06:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They're $115...I think I'll fork over the extra money and get the carbon fiber/kevlar ones from Trojan Horse that cover the entire frame spar.

Agreed, though...being that small may actually hurt more than it helps, since it could conceivably apply more force to the area that it is seated on, whereas the frame might spread the pressure around more.

Bryan
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Ckj
Posted on Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone have the carbon fiber/kevlar and what is your experience with them. Also anyone know how I should go about fixing a dent in the aluminum gas tank
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 12:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Frame slider dents tank or asphalt dents tank... which is worse? I agree a hard hit would dent the tank/frame. Would you expect a different outcome without the sliders? Looks like fair protection for easy tipover/lowside laydowns, protection against scrapeage.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 12:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ckj,
Bondo with proper surface prep and application.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 06:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ckj,

Some other people on the board have used a product called Alumafill(?) or some such. Check out the "XB Down" thread for some commentary on the subject.

Blake,

Not saying one is necessarily worse than the other, what I meant was it's possible that since the frame slider is a small surface area it could possibly cause a dent that otherwise wouldn't have occurred. Not saying it's likely or anything. Personally I'll go with the full out carbon-fiber/kevlar...plus they just look sweet. LOL

Bryan
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Skully
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Darthane-
Agreed. It's not that the force will be any different (larger or smaller), but the resulting stress (force divided by area) that would be different. A smaller area results in larger stress thus more damage to the frame/tank.

Keith
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Daves
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have the carbon fiber ones from Trojan in stock, ready to ship! 329.99 plus shipping.
I can also get the ones from American Sport Bike. Just depends on what "look" you are going for. I don't have any crash data for the American Sport Bike ones.
I have one customer that has crashed his XB9S twice, once on each side, at our BattleTrax events this summer. The carbon has done a pretty good job of protecting the frame, no dents, in the second crash the protector came off and he did get a couple scrapes on the frame. Use LOTS of double sided tape when putting the frame protectors on, the 3M automotive molding tape 1" seems to work best!
I am leaving on Vacation tomorrow morning so if you want some call today or call and talk to either Craig in sales or Josh in parts, they will hook you up.

Ride to the edge!
Dave
HD/Buell Cycle Center
1-800-342-7539 ext 211
Iowa HD/Buell (Buell Cycle Center)
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Ckj
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will use the Alumafill/bondo to fix my dent on the frame. Anyone know what color paint to use.
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Ckj
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I will use the Alumafill/bondo to fix my dent on the frame. Anyone know what color paint to use.
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can order the frame paint from your Buell dealer.
They have the spray type, and the touch up type.
I can post the part number when I get home unless someone has it handy now.
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Bigsherm9r
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch, how did yours finally turn out? I never heard.

Sherm
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 03:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Not too bad.
And yes you were right, lots of sanding to get that shape just right. I'm getting the frame sliders just so I don't have to do this again.
As far as the small sliders go. What I'd be worried about is pushing the slider into the tank.
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Darthane
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 05:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dave, I'd love to, but I don't have the money now. I'm crossing my finger that I can lay hands on them before Sept 13th (my first ever track day! Woohoo!)

Bryan
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 06:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Darthane, Skully,

Seems like you are contending that the frame could impact in point contact against hard asphalt and see less stress than if the frame slider met with point contact and spread the load slightly before imparting it to the frame? I think what y'all are thinking is that since the slider sticks out further it may impact and push the dent deeper than without the slider. With that I can agree, but in a case where the slider contacts asphalt and the force is not sufficient to dent the frame, you just saved your frame from being dented and/or scraped. That's no different from any other frame slider I've seen.
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Ckj
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch
I would appreciate the part number on the paint. What is the difference between the spray type, and the touch up type? And which one should I use after I fix the dent?
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Ckj
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Glitch
I would appreciate the part number on the paint. What is the difference between the spray type, and the touch up type? And which one should I use after I fix the dent?
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 08:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Tat just e-mailed me and asked me to post these.
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