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984gasm
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 01:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Here's an article I just stumbled upon. Some may find interesting.

http://www.cycleworld.com/article.asp?section_id=3 &article_id=584
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 02:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read that in my print copy of CW. Another gimmick that won't get too far.

Tire changes are a very long and involved process, therefore racing is pretty much out of the question.
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Spatten1
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I wish I had one, but Bimota ain't in the budget.

I'm impressed with it, very cool design.

The front swingarm is beautiful.
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Bebop
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

oh if I were a millionaire...
Good God that is a gorgeous bike.
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Rain_bolt
Posted on Saturday, January 26, 2008 - 08:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'd ride it

That bike was sweet even before they redesigned it.
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Lazyj
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

HA thats funny, I was actually at Miller when the bike was being tested........and I was riding the 1125R that same week....wierd

(Message edited by lazyj on February 08, 2008)
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Djkaplan
Posted on Friday, February 08, 2008 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it would be interesting if Bimota built an XB powered bike.
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Trojan
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 05:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I read that in my print copy of CW. Another gimmick that won't get too far.

Hub centre steering is hardly a gimmick, and has been around for a few decades in one form or another. The only thigs thathave held it back so far have been current technology (or lack of) and public perception and conservatism.

In theory the system works way better than telescopic forks, but until ecently has sufered from high frictional losses and lack of 'feel'.

The Tesi 3D is however a move in the wrong direction by Bimota, and is not as good as the 2D (designed and built for Bimota by Vyrus).

As for racing, a hub centre steered Vyrus won the Italian Supertwins championship and there will be one campaigned in the UK Thunderbike series ridden by Phil Read Junior in 2008 and is one of the hot favourites to win it.

Removing the front wheel is not a huge issue, and certainly not enough to stop anyone racing one.







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Sticks
Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 01:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So how is the 3D inferior to the 2D it replaces? I will note that I have never even SEEN one in the flesh let alone ridden either one of these machines and quite probably never will.

I'm just curious though, the new bike gains radial mount Brembos and it sounds like they've done some work with an eye toward improving handling and ease of manufacture.

The only thing I see that the outgoing bike has over the new bike is in the looks department. Trojan could you or anyone else enlighten us (Me) Thanks.
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Trojan
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 04:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The new 3D changes the way the steering works slightly over the previous 2D models, which in the opinion of the guys at Vyrus has made the steering feel more vague (a problem that has hampered development of hub centre steering and which was pretty much eliminated on the 2D).

Bimota have some slightly different ideas to Vyrus on this, and is one of the reasons that they have now gone their separate ways. I have an in depth article adn interview with Ascario about it somewhere so will try to dig it out for you.

Personally I would trust the Vyrus ethos rather than Bimota, as they were the people who got the Tesi to work at all after Bimota gave up on the project a few years ago.
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Ducxl
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Excellent pics Matt. I've seen the 2D in person.Exotic to be sure.Complexity for complexities sake
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Complexity for complexities sake

exactly my point. Even if changing a tire is not a "major issue" it is still going to take significantly longer than on a standard bike.

Perhaps I should have said endurance racing would be out of the question. I guess if the race isn't long enough to require a tire change, then race on.

edit: I'm aware that front swingarms have been around for a long time, and I'm also aware there is a reason why we don't see them on the road very often.

(Message edited by pwnzor on February 11, 2008)
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Why would it take longer?
Looks pretty straight forward to me.
Looks pretty much like changing a rear, minus the drive chain.
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

But, yeah, it looks pretty complex.
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Treadmarks
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ahh prefer the simpler approach.







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Sticks
Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2008 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Trojan and others. Beautiful and diabolical.
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