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Dannyxb9r
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone know if a wider rear tire will fit on the stock swingarm of 2007 XB9R? I know it would'nt be much, if any, but I'm still curious..... It's come up in conversation a couple times.
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Damnut
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

a 190 is the biggest you can fit on an XB stock setup. I believe that you have to remove the beltguards to fit a 190 though.
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Dannyxb9r
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmmmm. Does'nt sound like much, or worth it for that matter.
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Dannyxb9r
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hmmmm. Does'nt sound worth it.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Biggest is a 190/50. If you use a 190/55 it won't fit. I have a pilot on and its 190/50. My belt guards are intact and you can tell its larger.
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Dannyxb9r
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Any pics?
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)



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Dannyxb9r
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 04:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks for the pic Bads1. Your bike is wild, is that a 190/50? Also, could you tell me where you got your license plate relocater kit from, what model etc.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes,its a 190/50. And as far as the Swingarm plate relocator I designed what I wanted and had a friend make it for me. They are not for sale,its just a one off.
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Ferocity02
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Nice tire set-up. Looks larger without being ridiculous. You could make some $$$ with that license plate bracket, I'd buy one for sure.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 06:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dana, did you use the light at the end of the cheese grater?

When I saw his bike for real last summer, I thought it was a 200.
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

John,

Good eye!!! After cutting my cheese grater years ago. I took the light and threw it in the tool box. Then one day I wanted to make a swingarm mount for my plate. I thought,to make it legal of sorts it needed to be lit. I remembered the light from the grater and incorporated it into the design.... work's great and almost like it belongs there.
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Dmp0001
Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

one of the bikes here runs a 210 with what looks like the stock setup. no belt guards though.
http://www.pm-performance.ch/seiten/bikes-de.php?c ategory=4
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Schmitty
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How does this affect the handling? I know the current trend in racing is for a larger rear for a bigger contact patch. But doesn't this wider tire slow the handling a little bit?

Schmitty
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 07:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Dmp0001,

Your right the one bike does run a 210 but it run's a 6.25 wheel. They widen wheels if a customer wants them done. As far as handling??? The 190 doesn't feel any different then the 180. The Buell wheel being a 5.5 was designed for a 180 but 190 will fit.
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Xl1200r
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 09:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Keep in mind a couple things here...

Putting a wider tire on the same size wheel with the same sidewall will actually result in a smaller contact patch since the tire is pinched together a bit more. In other words, you force the bigger tire to curve more to fit the same wheel. Going from a 180 to a 190 probably makes almost no difference, but it's something to consider.

Also, every tire (both brand and model) is going to be a different 'actual' width. I upgraded wheels and tires on my old sportster and went to a 160 rear from the stock 150. A Dunlop 160 wouldn't fit as it was actually 166mm wide, whereas a Metzeler did fit because it was only 161mm wide. Most tire companies publish all this info...but, as per my first point, they're based on the recommended wheel size.
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Randomchaos
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 09:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Man that bike is SICK! I like how you colored the lettering in on the tires too.
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Mtg
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those are some pretty serious chicken strips on the rear tire. What's up with that?
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Those are some pretty serious chicken strips on the rear tire. What's up with that?
Brand new tires. Picture was took early last Summer. It was the only picture I have of the rear of the bike.
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Ronlv
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 04:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

i have a 240 in a stock swingarm with no swingarm mods
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Vicfirebolt
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 05:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

good lord that is a fantastic looking buell for sure nice work. I have a 190 rear on mine its all I have ever used the bike handles perfect.
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Retrittion
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The one on that Euro site with the tiny seat and swingarm mounted plate is awesome -- man I wish Buell would take some cues from the stuff people are making and give us some options, or at least some of these people would be nice enough to make some extra ones the rest of us!

(Message edited by retrittion on January 10, 2008)
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 09:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks Vic. Retrittion, I understand how you feel about parts for Buell. But at the same time be glad its the way it is also. See,if it was like any of japanese 4.The market is flooded with parts and therefore making it possible to get anything the next guy has. Buell enthusiast's make parts or have them made and being unique. It what makes the brand fun for me anyways.
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Dmp0001
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

anyone know how much it costs to widen a wheel?
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Bads1
Posted on Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

About a grand
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Dmp0001
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

thats not too bad, where would I go to get that done... I dont want some hack job to end up causing me problems in the future
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thats for the wheel. Then you need a chain drive conversion. A different front drive sprocket etc. Said and done around 2500.00
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Knotrider
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I have both 190/50's and 190/55's mounted on my bikes (XBR's). The 190/50 looks wider as the profile is different. If the wide look is what you are after stick to the 190/50. If you run the 190/55 your bike will "drop in" a bit faster than the 190/50 but look narrower. If you do decide to run a 190/55 you will need to remove your hugger as the taller 55 will hit it. All of this info is from bikes running Pirelli Diablo III's. As for running a wider rim, I know a guy who makes a kit that can run a 240 Diablo. He also makes a chain conversion for the XB's. His company is Grand Stand Designes and his work has been in several magazines. Check him out.
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Surveyor
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I run a 190 tyre on the track (because I get cast off race tyres free) and it works fine. However once the tyre gets hot it runs very close to the belt, better riders in hotter climates need to keep an eye on the tyre to belt clearance.
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Vagelis46
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 12:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

What about a 170/60/17 rear tire ?? Better entry and grip at big lean angles ?

I do not care for the "wide rear tire" look, only for performance.

There is Michelin Pilot Power at 170/60/17 .

Any thoughts / experience ?
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