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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I am in the Sportbike world forum . . . here's a linkhttp://sbw.sportbikes.com/showthread.php?s=&postid =639610#post639610

yea this is a very strange problem, and i dont think i should pay for it, so i am looking for some backup for my story

thx
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Northernyankee
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Can you post the pics and such here? You have to be a member over there to view them.
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Roadkingtrax
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 01:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

First,Welcome to the board,...I think you were referring to this type of problem.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/384 2/282980.html?1181096600

Second, calm down!!! All things are repairable, and this one can be modified or replaced. If you feel it is defective contact Buell and speak with them.
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Hogs
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 02:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IF that is the problem with your case yes had the same thing replace on my wifes 2005 xb12scg under warranty there has been others with the same problem, and at that time only the HArley Techs. had worked on her bike...

If you are out of warranty no use buddy..

(Message edited by hogs on January 11, 2008)
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Court
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

James:

What did Buell Customer Service say when you called them?

Court Canfield
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

first off, How do I get email notifications if someone (y'all) post a reply ?
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And Roadking, that is exactly what happened, to both lips.

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I tried to upload images, buy they were above "71 Kb", buy t'all get the just of it.

(Message edited by ochoa0042 on January 11, 2008)
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So i guess im not the only one who has had this problem
B/c right here, my first post, & BAM ... "me too" "same here"

(Message edited by ochoa0042 on January 12, 2008)
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Does anyone know how to contact buell?

buell.com does not have a 'contact us' link . . .
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Saintly
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 08:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Buell Customer Service: 1-414-343-8400
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P47b
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 08:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go to H/D web sight. They have a C/S # that will get you to Buell.
Expect at least a one hour wait on the phone.
This is a copy and web address of the spot.


To contact the Motor Company directly, please write:

Harley-Davidson Customer Service
3700 W. Juneau Avenue
Milwaukee, WI 53208

To speak with a Harley-Davidson customer service representative call (414) 343-4056.

Sorry, we're unable to receive e-mail at this time.


http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/U tility/hd_contact_us.jsp?locale=en_US

I had the same thing happen to me on my 03 XB9R. I got fed up with the run around and got a new primary cover.
There are a few dealers that will help you out with the cost on a new primary.
I really think that mine was done prior to me reciving it.
I think the person who had he bike before me had tightened the clutch ramp too tight.
If you need any help with where I got mine PM me.

(Message edited by p47b on January 11, 2008)
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P47b
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 09:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, You can do this. Just make shure to get the gaskets for it or you will have a mess on your hands.
It will take about Two hours for your first time.

(Message edited by p47b on January 11, 2008)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 12:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Make sure to use the proper torque and sequence when tightening the primary cover bolts. 80 to 110 in-lbs (9-12.4Nm)

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Sgthigg
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same on my 05xb12scg, replaced under warranty.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Well good news

I turns out that buell had a recall on my part, the problem is that only previous years are on the 'recall list' , and my 05 is not.

All I have to do is simply call buell and say my year also has the exact same problem the as others, and hopefully I dont get too much trouble with getting the OK.

(Message edited by ochoa0042 on January 12, 2008)
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P47b
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey sgthigg how it the ride in IWAKUNI?



I wonder if I can still get a refund out of the old primary?
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Jos51700
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 12:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

How come I can work on over 300 XB's, and never see the problems you guys have "all the time"?
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Austinuu
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 12:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Same thing happened to my 05 XB12R. Buell C.S. did a great job making it right.
Austin
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Captjim
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 03:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Exact same breakage in my primary case/cover at about 14,000 miles. Dealer replaced cover under warranty with no questions asked, $0 out the door.

Seems like a weak point in the casting. Does anyone know if the design has been changed on later units?

jim
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P47b
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I would say yes from the older case to newer. I did not get a thickness from the old case but the new case looked to be a little thicker.
What looked to be during the milling process it might be off toward the front of the case.
It just looked thinner.
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Sgthigg
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2008 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Riding in Iwakuni/Japan is Awesome!!!! It doesnt matter what you ride, you just cant go wrong. Japan has got to be one of the better places to ride in the world.

(Message edited by sgthigg on January 13, 2008)
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Monday, January 14, 2008 - 08:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey Austinuu,

How did you get your bike done? We have the same bike 05 XB12R, was your VIN on the 'recall list'?;mine wasn't : (
What was your turn around time, and the whole process for you?

B/c I go to Central Texas Cowboy Harley too, and it seemed like this was a first for them . . . ?
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Near Austin your are (yoda)
Some good roads;
-lime creek
-city park (off of 2222)
-spicewoods springs
-2222
-bullock hollow (2222 to lime creek)

Do you have any other roads to reccomend?
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Um... maybe this is a dumb question, but...

Under what circumstances is the part failing? I mean, is it happening after removing it and reinstalling? Or is it just cracking on its own, or what?

Mine's been fine all this time, but I'm getting ready to do some work on the bike and I am wondering what's in store...

pictures would be helpful.

(Message edited by pwnzor on January 15, 2008)
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Jos51700
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And what recall covers this? Numbers, please?

This is new to me, although the XBRR was beefed significantly in the clutch ball-and-ramp area.
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Austinuu
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ochoa,
Well yours shouldn't have been the first they've seen. Took it in 11/05/07 and got it back on it by 11/12/07. I did'nt hear about a recall list. Those are my short list of roads as well. This summer I'm going to try some longer routes further away from home towards bandera and luckenbach. I'm in Bastrop but come into Austin daily for work.

Pwnzor- I pulled the clutch in and there wasn't any. Basically the top of the "keyhole" of the clutch inspection cover area sheared off. never got a good reason why it happened. Just one of those things that did happen.

Austin
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you see that long screw? well when that it tightened too much, it puts extra stress/pressure on the 'lip' of the case cover. the screw just needs to be hand tightened, if I believe so . . .




(Message edited by ochoa0042 on January 15, 2008)
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P47b
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 07:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had not tightened my clutch up since I had it. It just started slipping a little and when I had gotten the bike from the dealership it finally popped on the way home. No clutch.
The mechanic that worked on it did not over tighten the clutch ramp on mine but that does not guarantee that the person that had it before me did or did not.
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Lovematt
Posted on Tuesday, January 15, 2008 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Actually it should not be hand tight when finished adjusting everything. First you loosen the cable so the lever is floppy...then you tighten until it stops...and that is with just your finger tips slipping a big. Then you are supposed to back it off a bit (I believe a quarter turn) before you put the nut/spring dealio on it under the clutch inspection cover...finally you adjust the clutch cable last.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, January 16, 2008 - 02:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That screw ain't doing anything to the primary cover.
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Ochoa0042
Posted on Friday, January 18, 2008 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Black,
It does so too so
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Austinuu were you still under warranty when it had to be replaced?
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