| Author | Message | ||
     Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
Was letting bike idle to warm up. So I'm putting my noodle bucket on when I hear a bang and no more engine running. Bike fell over, yes I know its notorious for Buells... It snapped the nub off the toe shifter. I replaced the shifter But it won't start unless the bike is in neutral. For months I've been able to leave it in first gear, pull in the clutch and hit the starter. Now I have to put the ignition in the "ON" position put it in neutral(since I got the bike it wont go into neutral while running, it keeps skipping past it. So I turn the engine off and the key back on to use the dash "N" light), turn the ignition back to "OFF" then "ON" again, then and only then will the starter engage. WTF do I do now? | ||
| Dentguy |
If it has a clutch switch (at the lever)check to make sure it isn't broken. | ||
| Buell_41 |
There's a switch on the kickstand so if the kickstand is down when you're trying to start I'm not sure if it will let you while in gear. You mentioned that you had been able to so maybe the spill jarred the switch back into operation (being that it fell on the left side and all)? Just a guess. I think the 9s had this switch but I don't know if all the 12s did... mine doesn't. As far as the shifting, if you drain a small amount of primary fluid it seems to help. I had similar problems as well as just very heavy shifting and this seemed to fix it. Do a search for how much fluid should be in the primary... I seem to think it was just under a quart? | ||
| Sparky |
You're describing two problems, 1) a mechanical one getting into neutral with the engine running and 2) not starting with the clutch lever pulled in, right?. The impact from hitting the ground could have disconnected a wire in the starter interlock circuit (clutch and neutral switches, diodes 1 & 2) or maybe have damaged the clutch switch, diodes or the start relay. You need to do some basic continuity checks in the starter interlock to determine if the wiring is OK up to the start relay. Are you handy with a multimeter and XB service manual? If so, check Fig. 7-13, Starter Interlock. If not, try swapping the 3 relays around and see if the situation changes. | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
I by passed the little sensor on the clutch lever with some 18AWG wire. The ignition was in the "ON" position, and the bike was in 1st gear. I heard the fuel pump come on and then bumped the starter button, the bike lurched forward. 1-Does this mean the little sensor is damaged? 2-my clutch worked yesterday, now when i did my little test I was holding the clutch in as hard as possible, and it wanted to jump forwards. a great big WTF is on my mind now. back out to test more stuff... | ||
| Hdbobwithabuell |
Maybe the cable got stretched somehow? | ||
| Hdbobwithabuell |
Or the lever is broken at the cable | ||
| New12r |
Ok, Yes it sounds like the switch is damaged. Next, you have a wet plate clutch, it has to get moving before it will work. So pulling in first while starting is normal. I would still inspect the cable, cable adjustment and the clutch adjustment in the primary just to be sure. It only takes 10 min. to do both of them and the piece of mind is worth it. Now, finding N. Yup, it sucks but you can do it, it takes some finesse but it will go. | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
hot damn As y'all were firing those replies i was figuring it out. First i took the sensor off and cleaned the gunk out, but I found I guess the lever was bent a little, so I shortened the stalk on the sensors plunger. Only 1/8" And that did it. I hear the fuel pump kick on with the key once again. Just thought I'd share the good news. I'm going to check the cable now... well I have a few question. Cable and clutch adjustment in the primary... 1-Do I take the whole 18"x10" cover off or can I go through one of the trap doors in the side of the cover? 2-What the hell am I looking for in there? P.S. Sorry for the constant questions I wont have spending $ to buy a service manual for a few weeks. Ah the joys of being young(more like stupid) and budgeting. | ||
| Ferrisbuellersdayoff |
And with the removal of any cover wont i need new gaskets? | ||
| Damnut |
PM Sent | ||
| New12r |
Well I was gonna give ya some tips but it looks like I got beat. | ||
| Woody1911a1 |
just put it in gear and push it while holding the clutch lever in to break the clutch plates apart ? just a thought  | ||
| Thulsadoom |
I tried to start my bike just now and nothing. I turn it ON, the little yellow light comes on and there is a hum. Hit start when the yellow light goes out, there is a loud click and the little yellow light comes back on. Any ideas? DOOM (Message edited by Thulsadoom on January 03, 2008) | ||
| Blake |
Dead battery or bad or broken connection at or near battery. | ||
| New12r |
^^^^^^+1 | ||
| Thulsadoom |
Thank you! Battery charger? What should I look for? | ||
| Etennuly |
See if you can move the battery wires at the posts. If they will move at all you might need to put a washer under the bolts and tighten them up. |
