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Sgthigg
| | Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 03:38 am: | 
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Holy cow expensive pipe. |
Aussie_xb12ss
| | Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 07:07 am: |
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I run the Remus on my Ss & it's bloody awesome.
Mate of mine has a Micron on his Ss & we swapped bikes a couple of weeks ago & I think I could safely say that he was a little amazed at the performance & sound of Remus. |
Kevinfromwebb
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 06:13 pm: |
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Trojan, that is a good looking pipe... And from what I've heard Remus is a well put together pipe... For them to offer the new version already says they are paying attention to the Buell market...
Kevin |
Retrittion
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:40 am: |
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Pretty pipe -- agonizing price! Any reason it is so costly (compared to the other aftermarket pipes like Drummer, SpecOps, etc)? |
Chrisb
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 03:18 pm: |
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Two reasons..
U.S. Dollar is "down"
Made in Europe |
Starter
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 06:32 pm: |
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Third reason,
It is a niche bike with low sales volume that they are trying to offset their development and manufacturing fixed costs. |
Florida_lime
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:50 pm: |
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I wish someone would import that Termignoni exhaust to the US. How hard could it be for the the US shops?? Every frakin Ducati around has Termignoni pipes on them.
+1
Any idea what the Termignoni would cost ? (US dollars) |
Trojan
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 07:00 am: |
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Fourth reason:
The Remus is actually two separate mufflers and not just one large one. This makes them more expensive unfortunately. However they are also fantastically built (much better built than the Termi' pipe), and are fully welded rather than rivetted, so this adds to the cost too. |
Chrisb
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 08:25 am: |
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The two big problems with this pipe is the price and a complete lack of any "proof" of its performance.
What about the sound in db? Compared to stock or modded stock or D&D? |
Glitch
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 08:31 am: |
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Complete lack of research is more like it. |
Chrisb
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 08:53 am: |
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A handful of people saying "Its great" is not proof. That's all your going to find on badweb and UKBEG. So if your saying I didnt do any research prove me wrong. I have a 12 not a "9" so any "9" info is meaningless to me. |
Thulsadoom
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 10:47 am: |
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I like the idea of a valve. If the Remus had a valve I would think a lot harder about buying it.
DOOM |
Glitch
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:13 am: |
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What? Prove a negative? |
Vagabond
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2008 - 08:57 pm: |
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I would like to see a dyno plot for the Remus on a 12. Remus offers a powerizer for the Buell as well (or you can tune with ECMspy) I'm not sure what and/or where the power gains would be with the Remus. I would purchase one if I had some hard numbers before me, not the subjective "it's great".
The reason I haven't switched to a Drummer or a SpecOps or anything like it, is because of the noise. 104dB is LOUD, and the Drummer at "full tilt boogie" has been measured at that level. The SpecOps is in the same neighborhood for noise. I want more performance and a stronger Buell sound, but not at the cost of my or my neighbors hearing.  |
Trojan
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 05:30 am: |
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Complete lack of research is more like it.
Remus is one of the world's biggest and best exhaust manufacturers (and actually makes the stock XB headers for Buell), so to suggest that they haven't done their research is ridiculous. The fact that the developed a separate muffler specifically for the XB12 after they found that their XB9 pipe didn't have the correct power characteristics for the 12 models speaks volumes for their research.
Remus will of course have run the muffler on the dyno before releaing it for sale, and I am sure with a bit of research I can get hold of the charts.
None of the aftermarket slip on mufflers will give big power gains. Modern exhaust design is so good these days that it is hard to get improvements over stock. However the Remus (and other decent mufflers) will give improvements at the top end of the rev range where the stock mufflers all suffer because of noise regs.
It will not suffer from holes in the mid range compared to some other aftermarket mufflers, and the lack of the valve does not affect performance. Almost all aftermarket mufflers for the XB do not have the valve fitted. The Termi pipe does have a valve, but it is just a simple flap valve in the link pipe (more gimmick than use). The stock valve is more use for reducing noise than increasing power by the way.
What the Remus will definitely improve upon over the stock muffler is in sounds, looks, longevity and top end power. We have sold around 100 Remus pipes for the XB as well as countless others for other makes of bikes, and never had a single complaint or warranty claim against them (they have a 2 year warranty unlike some other pipes). Build quality is far better than 90% of the aftermarket offerings available and Remus/Sebring have a worldwide reputation for quality & performance. Remus are also the only exhaust that I know of that includes two different removable baffles so that you can choose between street, track or fully open options.
At the end of the day you need to make up your own mind which one to choose, but with the Remus you certainly get what you pay for.
By the way, US models will use the 2007 model Remus exhaust and not the new 2008 model, which is designed to fit with the new Euro header pipes only. The 07 models are only available in polished or satin silver, with no black option available. Prices are the same for all models.
(Message edited by trojan on January 12, 2008) |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2008 - 12:13 pm: |
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Matt, I don't think the poster meant Remus didn't research their own products. American Sport Bike has a comparison chart of all of the exhaust systems generally available in the States so we can decide on which of those systems would best serve our needs. Unfortunately, NONE of the European E-certified pipes are included in that chart so we really don't have cold, hard numbers on which to base our decisions, that's all. |
Thespive
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 29, 2008 - 01:44 am: |
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I still might trade my Drummer in for a Remus, it is just too loud for me. But I would like to know what decibel range the Remus operates in. E-certified is great, but what db do you need to get at to qualify?
--Sean |
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