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Birdy
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 08:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

manual seems kind of high to me and while I find other post of this no where do I find what I should torque it to. 26-29 Foot/pounds is what the owners manuel says and I don't have a shop manual yet. Any one can help here?

Birdy

Loc-tight on the plug? Really? Never heard of that before.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Quite a few people have stripped the threads in their swing arm using that torque setting. Just snug it up by hand and you'll be fine.

The recommended Loc-tight is not thread locker, but Loc-tight's formulation of teflon pipe thread sealant. I wasn't able to find the Loc-tight version so I used another brand I'd purchased for a home plumbing job and it works fine and looks exactly like what was on the plug when I removed it. Since the plug has an o-ring on it, the sealant probably isn't necessary, but it certainly won't hurt anything.
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 08:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

11-15 ft-lbs on the primary drain plug and 29-31 ft-lbs on the engine oil drain plug as stated in the Service manual.They call for Locktite#565 THREAD SEALANT on the engine oil drain plug.The THREAD SEALANT can be found at industrial supply houses like Grainger.Though i've never used it.

I use Snap-On torque wrenches on all bolts and have never stripped a bolt yet.Not saying it's my brand but,the spec works for me
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Damnut
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 08:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Don't listen to Ducxl, he's 5 beers short of a six-pack.

A couple times a year there is another person on this board complaining that they stripped out their oil plug. The recommended torque specs are too high. I don't bother to torque my oil plug, I just tighten it by hand. Hasn't leaked or stripped in over 20K.
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Saintly
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 12:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I second what Damnut says.

If you break out a torque wrench when your putting in a drainplug, then you ought to re-consider doing your own service work.


P.S. 31 ft/lbs on a DRAIN PLUG!!!!??
Someone must have been high when they wrote that page. Hell, a small block chevy cylinder head gets torqued to 65 lbs! And that's damn tight!
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Spiderman
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 01:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

use the Ol' H-D tourqe spec.
Tighten till stripped then back off a 1/4 turn : )
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Clot
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

So whats the fix if they strip? (no, I haven't but I was just wondering)
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Punkid8888
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

german torque method

good-en-tight
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Ducxl
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 04:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

If you break out a torque wrench when your putting in a drainplug, then you ought to re-consider doing your own service work

hahahaha that's funny.But i want my moneys' worth out of my expensive tools.There's engineering thought behind torque specs.Not guesses.Why hand tighten when elaborate tools are on hand.I know i COULD do it w/o a Torque wrench,but choose not to.I also use micrometers and almost never vernier calipers
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Sslowmo
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

3/8 drive tell tight. works for me. no thread lock needed...
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 09:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You can just use regular old teflon tape.
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Barker
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

the fix is helicoil

(Message edited by barker on November 12, 2007)
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Semirgdj
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 02:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

most of the torque specs in the manual are too high. beware!!!!
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 08:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey J:

If your'e real nice I've got a fresh tube of the Hi$ Loctite sealant. That way you won't have to pollute your American plug with foreign teflon ;+}

Later
Neil S.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It was a joke. I guess the memory of Southsidebueller have faded already.
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Ccryder
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I caught it, and just thought that..... well never mind but, the offer is still open.

Beautiful weekend for a ride. The 'Bolt is sure fun NE of Gallatin, just have to hold her down to stay below the "radar" (Too many LEO's out for their Sunday drive).

Time2Work
Neil S.
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Snakedriver
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Standard TQ for HYD. Apps.= Sharp TQ rise plus 1 flat.

Leo
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Ulywife
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This is posted in the KV.

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/cgibin/discus/show .cgi?tpc=3842&post=970904#POST970904
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Birdy
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Thanks I just changed the oil and trans fluid. No worries I just S.W.A.G.ed it and hand tightened till it felt right. I'll check things for leaks a couple of time next time I ride. The good part? No left over parts!

The bottom fell out just as I was buttoning her back up. I Hates riden' in the rain.

(Message edited by birdy on November 12, 2007)
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Etennuly
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You guys don't use pipe dope with vise-grips and a hammer?

Crap, my methods must be getting out dated

I used to use a pipe wrench, but that broke when I hit it with a big hammer when I torqued the steering head bearings.

I'm gonna become a dirt mechanic. The only tools I need would be a matic, a shovel and a wheelbarrow.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 08:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

My dad's favorite tools were a giant monkey wrench, a ball peen hammer, and duct tape.

I distinctly remember being met at the front door by my mother with six new door knobs and being told "I need you to replace these before your father gets home. If he puts them in they will not work or we'll have to replace the whole door."

If we needed a new flapper on a toilet, we ended up replacing the entire toilet. He wasn't what you might call "mechanically inclined". He also had a temper.

Sweet heart of a guy, but it was kinda funny to see him in action. Every home improvement project turned into hair, teeth and eyeballs.
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Eicas
Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Just a guess, ... maybe the mean inch-pounds for the torque and not foot-pounds?
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