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Blackxb9
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I came across this in my recent Maxim. It turned my head more then any of the scantily clad beauties in the magazine. I'm sure some of you may know of this bike and others produced by this company. I think it rocks. Here are the technical specs and a link...


Type: V-twin

Displacement: 1686 cc (103 cu. in.)

V-angle: 90 degrees

Compression ratio: 11.0:1

Valve configuration: Over head valves, 2 per cylinder

Valve lifters: Hydraulic roller

Bore x stroke: 108 x 92mm (4.252 x 3.622 in.)

Fuel system: Sequential fuel injection

Fuel Type: Premium unleaded

Horsepower: 135 hp (SAE Certified)

Torque: 125 lbs-ft (SAE Certified)

Fuel shut off: 7800 rpm

Block: 356-T6 Sand cast aluminum

Cylinder bores: Liner-less Nicom coated parent aluminum

Cylinder head: 356-T6 Sand cast aluminum

Intake manifold: Carbon runner, dual throttle body

Exhaust manifold: 321 Stainless steel headers

Crankshaft: Billet 4340 steel

Camshaft: Billet 8620 VAR steel

Connecting rods: Forged Powder Metal Titanium

Pistons: Forged 4032 Aluminum

Valves: Forged titanium



http://www.confederate.com/confederate2/c2-links/m achines-renovatio.html
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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

GM engine architecture???
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Zac4mac
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I think it's that V-Twin cut out of a Chevy 350 - cyls 1&2 with front of engine/water pump.

Odd looking critter.

Z
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Odd looking critter.
To say the least!


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Xl1200r
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 03:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

The water cooled V-twin for the Renovatio is actually going to be a 2 cylinder slice from the Chevrolet Corvette’s LS7 V8. Preliminary displacement will be 103 cubic inches with 11:1 compression plus a target of 135 horsepower. Confederate is also talking about a supercharger so we’ll see what that does to power numbers.

For those that don't know, the LS7 is the 505hp, 7.0 liter V8 found in the Corvette Z06. Interesting to say the least.
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Buellerandy
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

you mean to tell me thats not a turbo between the cylinders? Just in front of the seat?
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Mikef5000
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

That's gotta be a turbo.

I would think the massive amount of metal supports would make it very heavy! (just like a single sided swingarm on often heavier than a standard swingarm)

Unless it's outrageously expensive, and made of very strong lightweight stuff.
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Sloppy
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I zoomed into the engine crank cover and saw this...

"LEGO"
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Etennuly
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I like the "ball drop" in the seat....you know, for those long days on a forward reach crotch rocket.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ever seen what a turbo spinning at 20,000 rpms does when the bearings let go?

Want that between your legs?

They should call that bike "Bouncing Betty".
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Coal400
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 08:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Some turbos actually operate as high as 200,000 RPM

They should sharpen the edge of the fuel tank that faces the rider. That way you get cut clean in half, vs torn in 2 pieces, during a front end collision.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I had seen the more angular design treatment posted above, but the curvier version looks better to my eye...sort of.

It's not just the shrapnel from a turbo that should worry you. It is the heat radiating off of it too. plus the fact your gear
would smell like exhaust, and exhaust fumes would tend to stay in the rider's air pocket if it wasn't directed away.

(Message edited by diablobrian on October 23, 2007)
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Xl1200r
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

It could very well be a centrifugal supercharger and not a turbo. Hard to tell since the exhaust or any drive belt would be located on the other side of the engine.
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Typeone
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

badass! i dig it.. .
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 02:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

more Tron than Darth Vader , but thats maybe just my 1980s geek talking there
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Arcticktm
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Definitely a supercharger in the "V".
It is taking air from the airbox under the tank, and dumping it into each cylinder on the inside of the V. All 3 visible pipes are air pipes (1 in , 2 out).
The exhaust is on the outside of the V, though not visible in any of the pics.
Of course, it was even easier to be sure it's a supercharger after reading the specs, which call out an "optional supercharger"!
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Mikef5000
Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 04:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Of course, it was even easier to be sure it's a supercharger after reading the specs, which call out an "optional supercharger"!

Do'h
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Bumblebee
Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

And just WHO is going to ride that?
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 09:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing has been on their website for nearly 2 years now. Still nothing to show but a fancy computer-generated illustration.

~SM
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Glitch
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that thing has been on their website for nearly 2 years now. Still nothing to show but a fancy computer-generated illustration.

~SM


While you're not wrong.
I'll give 'em a pass.
They used to be located in New Orleans, two years ago they were in the middle of a huge rain and wind storm.
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Swordsman
Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ah, nenver paid attention to their location... I guess that might have set a few folks back a little bit.

~SM
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Cgocifer
Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

"That's gotta be a turbo.

I would think the massive amount of metal supports would make it very heavy! (just like a single sided swingarm on often heavier than a standard swingarm)

Unless it's outrageously expensive, and made of very strong lightweight stuff."
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You got it! Nearly everything including the wheels are made from carbon fiber. Much of the metal components are titanium or magnesium. The bike will cost some where in the neighborhood of 70 grand and up. Start saving!

(Message edited by cgocifer on November 01, 2007)
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