| Author | Message | ||
     Hooligan620 |
1 up and 4 down vs 1 down and 4 up, I want to know the advantages and the disadvantages. My bike is seeing more and more time on the track and I'm thinking of switching to a GP shift pattern. I've ridden forever shifting normally, should I switch or not? | ||
| Mikef5000 |
My understanding is that GP will be ever so slightly quicker, ONCE you're used to it. If you're not racing, and don't need that extra second... I probably wouldn't worry about it. | ||
| Donutclub |
The GP shift pattern allows the rider to shift up a gear while in the middle of a curve. It's much easier to click down, especially in a left-handed turn. It's also easier to click (to shift up a gear) down while your in a tuck. | ||
| Jimduncan69 |
i have a lot of friends that use gp style shifting. they all say that they will never switch back. i have been thinking about it myself. | ||
| Carparts009 |
Both my XB and my R6 have been GP for about two months. It does take a little getting used to but for me I'm liking GP better. For the first few weeks I used a strip of painters tape on the dash with "GP!" on it to remind me. I would suggest GP if you're on the track a lot. That way you don't have to worry about getting you're foot under the peg to shift while you're full lean in a corner. | ||
| Slaughter |
Just do it. The upshifting while IN a turn is an advantage - also with the clunkiness of the XB tranny means fewer mis-shifts. If you have more than one bike, it'd be a good idea to switch them all. | ||
| Sub65chris |
pictures of the change? all you have to do is flip the imput lever at the primary cover correct? | ||
| Slaughter |
Yep - just flip the one lever. Getting to the hex head of the pinch bolt is a pain with the lever upside down but you only have to tighten it once. | ||
| Schmitty |
I agree with Slaughter. Aside from the mid-corner shift advantage, I find I get a more consistent positive upshift by stepping down on the pedal. Schmitty | ||
| Babyhuey |
i find that at the track for a guy my size,its easy to push the shifter down when in the tuck position.thats just my two cents.-andrew | ||
| Hooligan620 |
Thanks everyone for your comments, I'll switch over tomorrow. There is a corner at Pacific Raceways that requires a quick 1,2, three shift and I am forever missing a gear! The tip about a big GP taped in plain view is great! | ||
| Rocketsprink |
Personally, I prefer the standard shift pattern. I don't have a problem grabbing the next gear while dragging my left knee. I know some racers like it. Others don't. But as stated above, switch ALL your bikes over to one style or the other. | ||
| M1combat |
You'll want to do some riding around before you just jump to GP shift on a track. | ||
| Isham |
+1 what schmitty said. It shifts into gears a lot easier. | ||
| Spike |
  I've been using a reversed shift pattern on my XB12R for over a year now, no regrets and I'm definitely glad I did it. It takes some time to get used to it, so some sort of visual reminder is a good idea. Actually, the hardest part of learning the new pattern wasn't shifting while riding, it was trying to find neutral after parking the bike in 1st gear. I left my dirt bikes with the standard shift pattern and now that I'm used to GP style I noticed I have no problem going back and forth between the two. The primary advantages in the reversed shift pattern are marginally quicker upshifts and an easier time upshifting while leaned way over. However, it mostly comes down to personal preference. I read that Kevin Schwantz used the standard shift pattern through his entire career, and it certainly didn't slow him down. | ||
| Djkaplan |
I can barely make the transition from my standard shift truck to my automatic shift car without freaking out. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
Does anyone on an S have a hard time getting one's foot on top of the shifter with the GP pattern? You can't lower the shifter as much because the end of the shifter hits that little black protrusion when pressing the shifter down. Maybe I have stiff ankles, but unless there is some secret I am missing, Looks like I am going back to the standard pattern. (or getting some R pegs, which I don't want to do.) | ||
| Slaughter |
That black protrusion is actually a second mount for the shift lever. Pop out that plastic plug and use a shorter link. You can also use an S3 shift lever in that second location. Eyeball it and see if it works for you | ||
| Sub65chris |
thanks for the pictures | ||
| No_rice |
the main reason i have held off changing to gp is because i kind of like the fact that my foot is hooked under the shifter when i bang it up a gear and do my wheelies. | ||
| Sub65chris |
I think i will do the change this weekend. ride it for a while and then make th edecision because it won't be that hard to change it over or back. | ||
| Fresnobuell |
That black protrusion is actually a second mount for the shift lever. Pop out that plastic plug and use a shorter link. Ahhh..there is a secret. thanks Slaughter. | ||
| Kyrocket |
I can barely make the transition from my standard shift truck to my automatic shift car without freaking out. I had a buddy get off the interstate and come to a screeching halt at the end of the exit because he was trying to shift his wife's automatic and mashed the brake to the floor.  | ||
| Glitch |
He slipped it up into Race. | ||
| Xl1200r |
P for pass. I'm doing this soon. I've put it off because... well, I don't really know why. | ||
| Spike |
I haven't quite done the full screeching halt, but I have certainly scared some passengers when trying to push in the clutch on an automatic. I'm sure this sounds stupid, but I really do find it difficult to drive vehicles with automatic transmissions. I haven't owned a vehicle with an automatic in nearly 10 years. (Message edited by spike on September 27, 2007) | ||
| Xl1200r |
I sprained my ankle once. I was away at college and wasn't driving much. When I was home I had to borrow the shop's tow truck to drive my 1978 Monte Carlo back to my house (was in an accident). F-350 with a Power Stroke - that was a loooooong and hard clutch throw. Hopped in my mom's Grand Prix to head back, came up to the first stop sign and SLAMMED my foot on the floor next to the brake pedal. That hurt for a couple days. | ||
| Mjhzn6 |
FRESNOBUELL - I have been riding with the GP pattern for years on all my bikes, except dirt bikes. I finally got my 12s reversed and in a position thats comfortable. First, I used the older model shift pedal and moved the pivot up to the second hole and that worked but it still wasnt right. Also made the shifting hard. I ended up getting the R pegs and going back to the original shift pedal back to the original hole and things are sweet now. Pedal is where I want it and easier to shift too. It looks just like the pic above. |
