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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 05:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

$206 for an `07 "Hero (translucent) Blue" Airbox cover, it only comes with the X and badges unfortunately. But $206? Does this seem high to anyone I figured maybe <$150, but $206? I'm bleeding from the anus thinking about it.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I'm bleeding from the anus thinking

Brain bleed? : D

What would the X Cost? I know the decals are $15ea. What would painting a tank cost?

$206 to change everything seems pretty cheap to me.
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Beachbuell
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Check out the classifieds section. I've got a 2005 set for sale for about that price. You can not order just the "X" .

(Message edited by beachbuell on September 21, 2007)
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Ferrisbuellersdayoff
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I just want the `07 "Hero (translucent) Blue" Airbox cover, thats all. No X, no badges. I have a "Battle Blue" (Opaque) cover and I'm kinda keeping with the blue scheme and getting a clearish cover as to see the pegasus logo that has been cut out from the inner airbox lid.
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Thespive
Posted on Friday, September 21, 2007 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

They all come with the X and badges. But Andy at Appleton gives a 10% discount and Mike and Ceasar at Seminole give a 15% dicount to BadWebbers.

--Sean
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4cammer
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 04:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Try pricing out the plastics on any of the big 4 Asian bikes or.... oh my G-d Ducati.


200.00 will seem cheap.

I was going to have my front fender and pillion cover on my red XB9R painted black until I realized how inexpensive the black replacements were.
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Swordsman
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 08:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I dunno. I was looking at a set in a different color, and was shocked at the prices. It's frikkin' PLASTIC. And not even special plastic. Rubbermaid trashcans are more durable, and you don't see them asking over $200 for one. I'd love to know what the markup is on them.

~SM
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Slaughter
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 09:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Hey guys, Rubbermaid plastic is NOT the same stuff... and also I think that Rubbermaid produces like MILLIONS of pounds of plastic bits in a year.

That's kind of like saying "I can buy a boat anchor for $2 a pound made out of metal but my Buell - also made out of metal costs more like $30 a pound - that's WRONG."
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris,

Peel the X off and sell it. I bet you could get $40-$50 for it.

Now you're looking at $166.
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Cataract2
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

This one is for you sir.



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Onesickpsycho
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

When I first started looking into replacement body work, I thought it was cheap... For like $270 or something you can get the windscreen and airbox cover for an S...
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 02:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Yes, but if you look at it, you can totally change your bikes look and appearance for under 500 (that was the cost to off my blue to the orange, and add the ULY front fender set)
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 02:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Get a price on a anything painted for a Harley and then you will know who is getting bent over. Anything you can buy for your Buell is cost effective when compared to just about any other motorcycle manufacture.....

For example= 07 Uly seat retail = $109.00
. .. 07 2 up Sportster seat retail = $269.95
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Bads1
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 02:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You cannot purchase the "X" separately from the air box cover.
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Luxor
Posted on Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

I did a full color change on my 04 12S for less then $400, paint would've cost more. To me that is cheap considering I spent $693 for one side panel in 1988 on a CBR600 Hurricane, it was plastic too. I guess $$$ can be relative, but Buell has never seemed to a$$ rape anyone, just the opposite in my opinion. Considering the truly low production numbers of these bikes I am shocked the parts aren't triple what we actually pay.

Not to jump on the original poster, but this is just a reality check.
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Mndwgz
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 07:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Go build some molds and get back to us with that price.
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Diablobrian
Posted on Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

IIRC $250k is the number Erik mentioned when discussing the fairing mold for the firebolt.

Steve_Mackay could probably do better than that from what he was saying to Erik, but you'd have to ask him.

The molds are more complex than people think. they have to be precision made, allow for material shrinkage, have to
have internal allowances for heating and cooling elements, and be able to stand up to many many thermal cycles and
the mechanical forces of being clamped closed by hydraulic force and the pressure of injecting the plastic.

There is a reason that there are no aftermarket plastic body kits. Making molds for fiberglass/carbon fiber is simple
and easy by comparison, and the molds used in the bag b=molding process are not easy to manufacture. At least
not the multi-piece molds you need for commercial use.

I'm not talking about one time disposable molds knocked together out of styrofoam and body filler. I'm talking about
tool steel precision pieces, before I hear about how a guy made a (1)mold for his own one-off part for which the mold
had to be destroyed to get the part loose.

As a for instance it took Al at American Sport Bike months to get the design for the multi piece mold plug right
for his right side scoop for the XB. If he only wanted to make one scoop he would have finished it in a couple of
hours.

By now I'm sure that the Buell tooling has paid for itself, however, the problem with that is that the molds are probably
starting to show their age and are coming due for replacement soon, depending on what sort of life cycle they were
designed for of course. I know that there have been many many airbox covers cranked out since 02....
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Dhalen32
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Ferris:
It's just you. The cost to replace bodywork for any other bike, Japanese or European, would really make you cry. The direct material cost and labor are probably less than than $10. However, tooling, packaging, stocking and distribution costs and profit must also be taken into account. Having owned Japanese bikes since 1970 I'm delighted with the far more reasonable prices of Buell spares.
Dave
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Glitch
Posted on Monday, September 24, 2007 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

You cannot purchase the "X" separately from the air box cover.
From Buell maybe.
I have one that's not attached to anything.
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Krimpx
Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only)

Volume you spend 1 million dollars on equipment to make 3 million pieces then equipment costs are only .33cents per part

If you spend 1million dollars on equipment to make 200 thousand pieces then it is 5 dollars a part
You start off behind if you don't have volume.
then start factoring in required molding conditions. chrome plated molds I assure you we don't have that at my rubbermaid plant.

I hadn't even heard of the material they are using, but I do know we opted out of ABS due to high costs, a material buell rejected as mid grade.

they are both round fruit.
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